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  • LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Wow this could have actually happened:

    Previously, Messi claimed he was too nervous to answer questions in English, despite taking language lessons since 2020, as per an interview with journalist Guillem Balague. “I’ve been learning English for a year and a half. I understand it, but I don’t speak it,” he said in 2021.

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    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Funny, it really is easier to get the gist of what someone is saying in a foreign language that one has some familiarity with, but constructing a sentence with the correct words and grammar is a completely different game.

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      • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        So very much this, I’ve been living in a foreign country for 6 months now and taking language classes. I can eavesdrop better than just about any other skill. Including understanding when spoke too directly.

        Doesn’t help basically everyone speaks English.

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      • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yep. Reading a book or watching a movie in Spanish is as easy as English to me. Speaking? I can definitely hold a conversation but it won’t be fluid or elegant at all.

        To be fair I spend a ton more time listening to Spanish than speaking it. Consuming content is easy, social interactions hard lmao

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      • Paddzr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It blows my mind because my wife can hear and read other languages and translate it with insane accuracy, but she wouldn’t be able to hold a conversation.

        My English speaking brain can’t do it.

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      • Luxyr@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m the opposite with Japanese, at least. I can construct sentences and know what to say, but when native speakers talk to me, I just can’t follow well at all.

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Sometimes it can be the opposite as well, because missing a key word or two renders all the other stuff you understood in the sentence basically useless. If you understood “He has a new X and he’s gonna try Y tomorrow,” you got everything except the gist, but constructing basic sentences doesn’t take all that much study.

        Anyway, I’d recommend not trying to do Japanese through immersion.

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      • Carrot@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m curious how it is for other languages, but I find that in English I can usually understand someone trying to explain something using incorrect words and bad grammar if we go at it long enough

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      • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        understanding and producing and two entirely different skills, and for many people one of them makes them anxious

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      • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yeah, I remember going through that period when started learning English, but also attending other classes that I was passionate about and didn’t want to wait.

        I understood everything the teacher said, but tough luck if I had any question. I remember trying to ask once and teacher trying to figure out what I was asking.

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    • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I think anybody who’s bilingual or attempting to learn another language or done some duolingo classes can relate to a degree.

      Reading/writing, speaking, and listening can feel like different skills.

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      • 7101334@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        There’s also, at least for Spanish but probably for other languages too, a significant difference between the academic version and the colloquial version.

        I assume it’s sort of like if you, as an English speaker, only spoke as if you were composing a college essay.

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  • DrBob@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    A version of this happened to me when I was young. I was lucky enough to be invited to dinner with a famous scientist. I spent a good chunk of time pitching my work (looking for a faculty position). At the end of the night he apologized and said he was sure I was very interesting but he couldn’t hear over the music.

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    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I absolutely hate places with “background” music that isn’t in the background.

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Restaurants that properly handle noise are awesome. Busy ones can get loud even without music, but if they take steps to address sound reverberation, it can make a huge difference.

        Some places are so loud, employees should be required to wear hearing protection.

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  • Baleine@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Smile and wave boys, smile and wave

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  • tacosanonymous@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    He’s either a dick or a fool. I wouldn’t give two minutes to someone that’s okay being in Trump’s orbit.

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    • Ibisalt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Messi or Sheeran?

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      • zikzak025@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Messi. He visited the white house not too long ago as PR for the world cup, and also to highlight the diplomatic ties between Trump and Javier Milei.

        archive.today/…/argentina-soccer-messi-trump.html

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  • hOrni@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Still would fit better in a Game of thrones episode.

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      But have you considered that ballons d’or of gold are always cold, but a woman’s hands are warm?

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  • FluidBeef@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Maybe he should try speaking out loud.

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  • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    They’re kind of similar looking, lol

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    • hOrni@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      What are You talking about?

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      • testaccount789@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        2 legs, 2 arms.

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      • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Forehead nose cheekbones chin. Face shape similar in my honest opinion.

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      • NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        They just two boys doing their best

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  • NahMarcas@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Messi cabron traidor, quien te mandó a la casa blanca

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  • thethrilloftime69@feddit.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I just find it funny that Messi has been in the public eye since he was a teenager but nobody ever bothered to make him learn English.

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    • SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      An Arginine playing in Spain and France, is supposed to find English useful?

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    • wieson@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Is your conception that the public eye is anglophone?

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Watching Messi is like watching real-life magic. Doesn’t even make sense half the time.

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  • zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    No money or success will make you smarter.

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    • Miaou@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      TIL speaking English makes you smarter

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  • Nomorereddit@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Thats the only reason he spent 5 min w that annoying ginger.

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