People keep ignoring the fact that Obama struck a deal with Iran that stopped their nuclear weapons program.
Trump killed american troops to get a deal that’s worse than the one we already had.
Shart of The Deal
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DagwoodIII@piefed.social 18 hours ago
drgeppo@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
that shit is making me crazy… why do I, random European dude, remember trump breaking the Iran deal all those years ago, and no fucking journalist today dares to put a wee little reminder at the beginning of every article just to get all up to speed? wtf man
ICastFist@programming.dev 12 hours ago
Prolly the same reason mainstream media “forgot” to mention Operation Cyclone back in late 2001 and early 2002, or how they intentionally swallowed the screamingly obvious bullshit of “Iraq has WMDs”
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Because western mainstream media has been captured by the same interests who are betting on oil futures right before Donnie Dipshit tweets about it
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
just give us a few days before rubbing his nose in it. he might not lose it so bad
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
ah but you seem to ignore that obama was a secret kenyan
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 hours ago
I think it was Letterman who asked Obama why Trump had it in for him.
“I don’t know, he’s been like that ever since we were kids together back in Kenya.”
housedogpartyfavor@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
and don’t even get me started about benghazi
FatVegan@leminal.space 16 hours ago
He couldn’t handle the fact that a black guy bombed more brown kids than him.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
The JCPOA (Obama‘s deal) wasn’t perfect and didn’t stop a nuclear weapon or nuclear enrichment for Iran. At best it delayed it for a decade. It also didn’t do anything about Iran ballistic missile program.
In fact the same year the JCPOA was signed, Iran built a big public clock counting down to Israel‘s destruction in Palestine square. It would reach zero the year the JCPOA ended. So much for their peaceful intentions.
The JCPOA only kicked the can down the road with the hope of a more sane government in Iran later on.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 hours ago
Iran built a big public clock counting down to Israel‘s destruction in Palestine square
And Donald Trump swore up and down that Mexico would pay for the Wall.
kandoh@reddthat.com 9 hours ago
Sounds like right-wing misinformation to me.
Just as a casual fact check, the JCPOA was signed into law in 2015 and the clock in Palestine square appeared in 2017
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
So what has improved about the situation since Trump threw out the JCPOA?
“Not perfect” doesn’t mean it wasn’t batter then the current situation.
the_armchair_potato@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Not so Iran can make more money…it’s for Russia to make more money, duh. Almost everything he does benefits Russia. It’s so blatantly obvious, too. Russia has some real good shit on this clown.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
“Israel and/or Russia first”
Lanske@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Jerry Seinfeld is a twat
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
A Zionist twat. Hope terrible things happen to him.
chloroken@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
He starred in a movie about Poptarts. He is indeed having terrible things happen to him, rest assured.
Also whenever I hear the man speak, I get the sensation I’m listening to a very unintelligent person that nobody has ever called out.
kingofras@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s not so Iran can make more money, it’s for Russia. Also it helped distract us from the fact that indicted bibi is continuing with a 2nd genocide for his Greater Israel sideproject.
felixwhynot@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
ART OF THE DEAL BABY
kingofras@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Actually yes, because this allows him to regroup, move slow moving carrier groups into position and secure oil supplies/put measures in place to keep at least Red Sea/Suez open when he continues it. Possibly also see who at CENTCOM has been reluctant to carry out war crimes, and do some more replacements there.
I can’t believe how people are falling for it, every time he pumps and dumps. This isn’t going to stop. It will only get worse. One guy is a blackmailed pedophile with demential and the biggest nuclear arsenal, the other is a criminal delusional religious radical who would rather die, than give up this Greater Israel crusade.
I’ll be another few years before we get to Christmas.
CubitOom@infosec.pub 22 hours ago
Don’t forget, this was also a distraction for the Epstein files release and the fact that he raped children.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
it’s for Russia
Americans shitting the bed in the Middle East every day for fifty years
“Yeah, uh, actually that was Russia. Russia did that.”
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 22 hours ago
To be clear this is copy and pasted but it is critical information about the motivations behind our aggression towards Iran that doesn’t depend on the dubious claim that Russia secretly controls the largest economic and military power in the last century.
I favor the theory that it was now or never.
They’ve overused sanctions and have kickstarted dedollarization. For the same reason they kidnapped Maduro, they only had few years before it reached an irreversible tipping point. They had to capture Iran’s oil and monopolize it to keep the petrodollar alive.
And.
Iran was becoming a harder and harder target to attack militarily, and it had just defeated their attempt at color revolution by demonstrating it could defeat their Starlink operation on the ground. The longer they waited, the more rockets and missiles Iran would have to retaliate against US assets. The post-color revolutionary period was actually the weakest Iran would ever be ever again.
And.
China is a rising juggernaut, and Iran plays a role in that rise. They’ve signed on to join the Belt and Road initiative, China was key to restoring relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia, Iran is a key oil supplier for China, Iran is a member of BRICS, and China has also been investing heavily in Iran’s infrastructure. It wouldn’t be long before the sanctions didn’t even matter anymore because Iran will be able to sell and buy everything it needs without the West.
And.
Israel is no longer a viable settler project. The promise of Israel was that it would be a walled garden in the wilderness, an imperial core lifestyle with superior fire power and a perfect missile defense system and an omniscient surveillance system. Hamas blew that myth up during the Al Aqsa flood, now Israel isn’t getting new settlers anymore and many settlers are trying to leave. It’s why they’ve had to ban Israelis from flying out of the country. If the Axis of Resistance isn’t destroyed, Israel is finished.
And I’m sure there’s more. Basically, if Iran doesn’t fall within the next few months, the US empire will begin an irreversible decline.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
China is a rising juggernaut
China was a rising juggernaut twenty years ago.
They’re the lynchpin of the global economy today.
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Aren’t all ships paying in Chinese Yuan, not Russian Ruble?
China has more to gain from all of this than Russia.
kingofras@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
china still gets an oil squeeze, where russia doesnt. They are also allies so its not that bad for either of them. But certainly it isn’t any type of ‘victory’ for the USA. They’re pretty much losing on all fronts.
Sunforged@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
It’s literally going to pay for the destruction of this war and the complicity of those that stood by and watched.
CubitOom@infosec.pub 22 hours ago
Remember, Jerry Seinfeld is not just a Zionist, but he also “dated” a 17 year old girl when he was 38. So best case, he is a genocidal groomer.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 13 hours ago
Isn’t Jerry a zionist?
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
You are correct.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
And a pedophile
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
They aren’t charging $2mill. They are charging ¥2mil or crypto equivalent. They are intention demolishing the Petrodollar.
More power to them.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
They are intention demolishing the Petrodollar.
I think Climate Change and explosion of alternative energy sources is doing that.
They’re just trying to evade Western financial restrictions. Dollars aren’t useful to a country that’s cut out of the LIBOR and SWIFT banking systems.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
It’s not just about how useful the dollar is to Iran, it’s about making it less useful to other countries also.
If Iranian oil is back on the market there will be a lot of interested buyers. If it’s only sold in yuan or crypto.
The petrodollar wasn’t going to last forever youre right but there are many parties interested in ending it sooner than later.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
So what? IF the dollar collapses, we’ll slam in a crypto
ICastFist@programming.dev 12 hours ago
2mil yuan is roughly 292k dollars. No idea how much that is compared to other shipping costs
ikidd@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Oh, don’t forget that now that oil that actually gets through is being traded in yuan and renminbi instead of USD, so not the petrodollar is starting to slip away. This was true weapons-grade stupidity for that stable genius.
Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
He thinks he’s going to be taking a chunk of those fees. Dumbass.
edgemaster72@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Given his understanding of tariffs, this would not surprise me at all
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 16 hours ago
probably seinfeld is a bad example of being used, hes a zionist, his wife has funded prozionist groups, and he loves the war thats going on.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
And he’s a pedophile
Objection@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
I’m not saying that Trump has embraced the divine light of Allah and is doing all this to ensure that the US has to keep giving the Islamic Republic money years and years after he’s gone.
I’m just saying, he did recently tweet “Praise be to Allah.” 🤔🤔🤔
J92@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Curious…
Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
redbrick@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Imagine if they actually had nukes…maybe the toll is not so bad??? I’m so confused.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
One can imagine that being told “a civilization will die tonight” will act as motivation for them to get one.
ICastFist@programming.dev 12 hours ago
I recall a political cartoon back when Gaddafi was killed, it was Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (then president of Iran) and Kim Jong Un watching the bombing of Lybia under USA flag, with one asking “What message do you get from this?”, and the other replying “Build more nukes!”
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
The U.S. Congress needs to meet and stop all the war
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
11D chess. He’s going to turn Iran into another stupid rich petrostate full of corrupt plutocrats.
Iran is going to be another Hong Kong or Singapore by the end of the century.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 21 hours ago
Iran has been an autocracy since like 678 BC, although between 1925 and 1979 they had some social progress. There’s no more corrupt than that. You’re probably thinking they might magically align more with the Blue Fascism than the Red Fascism if they had enough money, but I think that’s a foolish notion.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
This seems like an inaccurate representation of Iranian history so please feel free to elaborate. Sure Iran was an autocracy in 678 BC, not sure how that’s relevant to today, but Iran’s democracy was overthrown by Western powers when it tried to nationalize its oil. The West then installed an autocrat representing their interests until the revolution in 79.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 21 hours ago
NGL I would rather the IRGC burns and takes a million people with them than them get paid for passage through the strait. The buck has to stop somewhere, we can’t allow evil to take root like this.
arrow74@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
Can’t let evil take root
Willing to kill 1 million people
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 8 hours ago
It seemed like Iranians were willing to stop it themselves for but a brief moment, but the moment is over. Same with Russia and China. If they won’t fight it internally, then we have to step in ourselves, for not only our own wellbeing but the people who come after us.
thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 18 hours ago
Where were you when the CIA was founded? Can’t let evil take root coughlaughcough
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 18 hours ago
I assure you I do and would have then opposed the CIA, KGB, MSS, etc.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
This reminds me of that meme where a dad says “our cat just got eaten by a coyote so i’m gonna get a new cat from the animal shelter” and the friend says “well it just sounds like you’re feeding stray cats to coyotes” and then the daughter started crying …