cross-posted from: sh.itjust.works/post/52901772
Rice needs very wet and fairly warm conditions to grow whereas wheat is a cool weather crop and doesn’t need as much water
Anon thinks about wheat
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world to science_memes@mander.xyz
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CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wait until you hear about the ridiculous hoops you need to jump through to make chocolate or coffee palatable, especially compared to
hot leaf juicetea.faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 3 weeks ago
Ayyyyy teaaa gang rise up.
marlowe221@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Present and accounted for!
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Cacao isn’t too bad. Eat the fruit, spit out the seeds into a pile, ferment a few days, roast, peal, grind and you got it. There are some details to the ferment but it’s not more complicated than any other ferment d food.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As I understand it, the hard parts are removing the bitterness and getting the texture to be anything other than “unpleasantly gritty”. The traditional Meso-american cocoa was a spicy bitter drink; what we think of as “chocolate” today wasn’t invented until fairly recently and requires a fairly involved process.
slothrop@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Not to mention coffee beans that have been shat:
glimse@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah let me just replace these rolling wheat hills with a rice farm. It’d totally work because wheat and rice have the same growing conditions. Dumbass
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fucken owned 'em
hansolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Wheat is just fancy grass. People learned how to process wheat before they learned how to wipe their asses with a communal sponge on a stick.
Wheat calories are what unlocked the big brain thinking that first said, “Guys, let’s put just ONE sponge on a stick. And share it!”
protist@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Rice is just fancy grass, too. So are oats, barley, and rye. All fancy grass
hansolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Exactly. Not crazy that ancient humans would see them and smash the seeds up and eat.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The stupid level of processing is…boiling it? Same as rice, people only discover processing it a bit later.
lb_o@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you think about it then boiling is not that easy.
There is almost no way to boil something until you discover pottery and ceramic, and this is quite advanced tech for many early civilizations.
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The Haida on the west coast of Canada put red hot rocks in their canoes to render fish. You underestimate humans ingenuity.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Wheat doesn’t need to be grown in a marsh.
Contramuffin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My understanding is that rice doesn’t need to be soaking in water, either, but it helps with the weeds, since rice can survive the water but not other plants
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Very cool to learn something new! Thanks for informing me homie.
tburkhol@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
wheat has almost twice as much protein. A wheat-fed peasant, you’re probably going to be stronger and healthier than a riice-fed peasant.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
i think the problem is that people these days wholly associate wheat with bleached core flour, which kind of fucking sucks.
Even just going with whole wheat flour makes a big difference in nutrition
RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Beer. It was always beer.
Venat0r@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How did people who wiped their ass with a communal sponge on a stick figure out beer?
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
the beer came way, WAAAAAAY before the communal ass sponge, which was a uniquely roman piece of nonsense afaik
RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because someone who is starving to death will eat literally anything.
Someone tried rotten grain and got a buzz and then after surviving the famine went back and figured something out.
red_tomato@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A person probably made some fermented wheat beverage on accident and thought it was nice.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I once made prison wine by accident by leaving a bottle of Coke under my bed for a couple weeks.
I didn’t drink it but it smelled really strong.
Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Meanwhile the Inca: 🥔
Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Taters? Boil’em, mash’em, stick’em in a stew?
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also freeze drying them first. Ancient taters were poisonous, since they are nightshade. And freeze drying them would reduce the toxins.
the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Which proves Middle Earth was in South America.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because if you let it sprout a bit, then roast it, then boil it, then let it sit…
Well you get beer.
ImWaitingForRetcons@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Plus rice also needs to be polished, which is a not insignificant amount of processing.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They polish rice!?
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Mmm, shiny rice.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Brown rice isn’t polished, though, right?
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
yeah, brown rice is just whole grain rice. It’s pretty sad how we’ve culturally forgotten that you can just fucking eat grains without dehulling them, grinding them, sifting the flour, and fucking bleaching it so it’s white as chalk.
whole grains are great, every sensible food administration is begging people to eat whole grains because it’s such a simple way to massively improve your nutrition
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Processing wheat involves letting it dry and opening both ends of the barn so the hulls blow away
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
“be wheat” yeah like anyone here has ever been wheat
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wheat is not that difficult to process.
Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
The communal sponge was a feature, not a bug 😂
Hupf@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Rice is easy. The soy sauce though…
ynthrepic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Dehulling rice is way harder than processing wheat…
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Bread” with rice flour, maybe.
My mom has celiac disease and while the options for gluten free bread have gotten a lot better since the 80s she still sneaks a slice of real sourdough because it’s not the same.
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 3 weeks ago
You can all tropical cultures have some form of rice bread. Indians have rice bhakhari, South East Asia has rice paper, rice mixed with wheat in banh mi, Liberia and Sierra Leone have ginger rice bread. Its a fundamentally different bread and requires different complimentary food. If you use it as replacement for wheat bread it will not taste the same. Its like you made wheat pilav and then complained its not the same. Of course it’s not the same that’s the point.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Do you know if she’s tried Fat Head dough/bread? I’m pretty sure it’s gluten free, it was my go-to on keto. Made with mozzarella cheese. It’s really, really good.