Literally never had this happen. Every time I have caved after exhausting all other options the LLM has just made it worse.
Yea well it still can't have an existential crisis like humans can! Take that!
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Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
They’re by no means the end-all solution. And they usually aren’t my first choice.
But when I’m out of ideas prompting gemini with a couple sentences hyper-specifically describing a problem, it has given me something actionable. I’ve had almost no success with asking it for specific instructions without specific details about what I’m doing. That’s when it just makes shit up.
But a recent example. I was trying to re-install windows on a lenovo ARM laptop. Lenovos own docs were generic for all their laptops, and intended for x86. You could not use just any windows iso. While I was able to figure out how to create the recovery image media for the specific device at hand, there were no instructions on how to actually use it, and entering the BIOS didn’t have any relevant entries.
Writing half a dozen sentences describing this into Gemini, instantly informed that there is a tiny pin-hole button on the laptop that boots into a special separate menu that isn’t in the bios. A lo, that was it.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I do use LLMs if I forget to plan one of my tabletop sessions. I will fully admit they are great at that. Love 'em for making encounters.
Eheran@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
When was the last time you tried? GPT5 thinking is able to create 500 lines of code without a single error, repeatable, and add new features into it seamlessly too. Hours of work with older LLMs reduced to minutes, I really like how much it enables me to do with my limited spare time. Same with “actual” engineering, the numbers were all correct the last few times. So things it had to find a way to calculate and then figure out some assumptions and then do the math! Sometimes it gets the context wrong and since it pretty much never asks questions back, the result was absurd for me, but somewhat correct for a different context. Really good stuff.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Really good until you stop double checking it and it makes shit up. 🤦♂️
Go take your Ai apologist bullshit and feed it to the corporate simps.
Donkter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve come to realize that these crazed anti-ai people are just a product of history repeating itself. They would be the same leftists who were “anti-gmo”. When you dig into it you understand that they’re against Monsanto, which is cool and good, but the whole thing is so conflated in their heads that you can’t discuss the merits of GMOs whatsoever even though they’re purportedly progressive.
It’s a pattern, their heads in the right place for the most part. But the logic is just going a little haywire as they buy into hysteria. It’ll take a few years probably as the generations cycle.
lectricleopard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It gave you the wrong answer. One you called absurd. And then you said “Really good stuff.”
Not to get all dead internet, but are you an LLM?
I dont understand how people think this is going to change the world. Its like the c suite folks think they can fire 90% of their company and just feed their half baked ideas for making super hero sequels into an AI and sell us tickets to the poop that falls out, 15 fingers and all.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Also did you adequately describe your problem? Treat it like a human who knows how to program, but has no idea what the fuck you’re talking about. Just like a human you have to sit it down and talk to it before you have it write code.
idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They seem to be pretty good at language. One time i forgot the word “tact” and I was trying to remember it. I even asked some people and no one could think of the eord I was thinking of even after I described approximately what it meant. But I asked AI and it got it in one go.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Well there Well there is a reason the word language is in the name. Asking them general questions like this is basically their bread and butter. It’s one of only things if not the only thing they are good at.
abfarid@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
Happened to me yesterday. I have an old 4K TV, every component I used to connect to it had HDMI 2.0+ capabilities. Neither laptop nor Steam Deck would output 4K60, only 4K30. Tried getting another cable and a hub, same result. And I know that my Chromecast outputs 4K60 to this TV, so I was extra confused. In my desperation, asked GPT-5 what was I missing, and it plainly told me that those old Samsung TVs turn off HDMI 2.0 support unless you explicitly turn it on in TV settings under “UHD Color”. Apparently Chromecast was doing chroma subsampling, but computers refused and wanted full HDMI 2.0 bandwidth…
_g_be@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s rather cool, glad to hear it worked. My experience with it is often:
Where can I find this setting to change for *this thing*? “Gladly! I know how frustrating this process scan be! First, open the settings page, find the page that says “*\thing setting* and change it there” There is no page like that " You’re absolutely right!”
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I was creating some sort of nutrition calculator thingy, and the AI basically taught me how to use Excel.
TehBamski@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Context is highly important in this scenario. Asking it how many people live in [insert country and then province/state], and it’ll be accurate a high percentage of the time. As compared to asking it, [insert historical geo-political question], and it won’t be able to.
Also, I have found it can depend on which LLM you ask said question to. I have found Perplexity to be my go to LLM of choice, as it acts like an LLM ‘server’ in selecting the best LLM for the task at hand. Here’s Perplexity’s Wikipedia page if you want to learn more.
CabbageRelish@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
They’re regularly properly useful to me but it’s pointless to get in arguments in their defense. 🤷
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
They are great if you know what the right answer is just don’t know how to get it right now
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Asking genAI questions I already know the answer to is how I know the AI is wrong more than it is right.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Yeah, but I can copy paste the code and then fix it quickly.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
it doesn’t generally completely figure out but to be honest it does a much better than google for finding the relevant key words which can then be used for a more detailed search.
dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Doesn’t always help but I am unfortunately thankful it exists sometimes when I feel like giving up and it gets me on the right track.
It never gives me good code, but the text it returns can sometimes spark an idea that works.
DrDystopia@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Ah, to live a life where ones problems can be solved by an LLM. It sounds so… simple and pleasant. 🫀
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
…NOT!
It’s just big tech selling convenience for the trillionth time, this time in another form. They are NOT doing out of good will; they’re doing it to sell your data, to train their ai on it (alongaide their pirated media), and do other nefarious stuff with everything you have.
DrDystopia@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
…NOT!
I promise you, as someone overcome with sadness from watching the so-far unsolvable problems of mankind that will lead to the end of the world as we know it - Living a life where one believe simulated intelligence could solve anything at all is a dream. Ignorance is bliss.
It’s just big tech selling convenience for the trillionth time
No, once more they’re selling the impression of convenience. I.e. having the entire backend exposed to hackers because it was so convenient to vibe-code access control is not a real convenience.
They are NOT doing out of good will
Only idiots argue for such an intention.
they’re doing it to sell your data, to train their ai on it
No, they’re doing it to harvest our data. This allows them to use machine learning on the datasets but more traditionally, build profiles on their users. Access to the profiles is what they’re selling, not direct access to log data.
and do other nefarious stuff with everything you have
Then they need to step up their game as I’m self-hosting everything on a home-server. But I know what you mean. They want to do downright evil stuff with everything they can get their dirty, sticky paws on.
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s the world we all dream of, right? We work on what we want to with the robots keeping the houses in check and taking care of the menial admin- and paperwork and in the evenings we all sit together by the campfire with the robots bringing us food and drink as we rejoice in talking to each other about the day’s experiences.
That doesn’t seem to be the world that we’re moving towards though…
87Six@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Me yesterday, except I only thought it figured it out, then found out hours later I must revert back to my workaround because it didn’t really work fully and was fragile as fuck.
ChocolateFrostedSugarBombs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
AI doesn’t figure anything out. It guesses the next letter in the word.
Alloi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
no offense, i understand what you are trying to say here. im not a massive fan of the implications of things like AI and its effects on society.
but oversimplifying and infantalising your enemy wont stop it from out performing you.
like i can say “all AI does it put words on a screen based on a statistical analysis and prediction algorithm based on context and available training data, and its only accurate between 95% to 97% of the time, and it lies when it doesnt know something, or wants to save power for the sake of efficiency and cost reduction”
and it would still be far more likely to give a comprehensive breakdown and step by step analysis of systems well beyond my personal understanding. way faster than i ever could.
we can chalk it up to stolen info and guessing letters, but itll still outperform most people in most subjects, especially in terms of time/results.
dont get me wrong i dont think its intelligent in the way that a human can be, or as nuanced as a human can be. but that doesnt necessarily mean it cant be forever. and the way the technology is evolving across the board, seemingly faster and faster each day. with some plateaus here and there. its hard to imagine a world where we just say “well, we tried, its a dead end, oh well” and just completely abandon it for the idea of human exceptionalism.
overall humans, as smart as they are, are also pretty fucking dumb. which is why we are ignoring things like climate change, for what are essentially IOUs made out of 1s and 0s (money). and also succumbing to a global increase in fascist ideals even though we historically know what it entails and how it ends. and its in part due to the ability of AI to manipulate the masses, in its current “primitive” state.
i dont like AI, but im not going to pretend it wont be able to replace the output of most humans, or automate most jobs, or be used to enslave us and brainwash us further than it already has.
the human mind simply cannot compete with the computational speed, and in some cases, quality, of what is, and what is yet to come.
slop it may be, but if you cover the veritable feast of human creativity with enough slop, humanity will soon have no choice but to eat it or starve. everything else will get drowned out in time.
something really fucking big would have to happen to change this outcome. ww3, nuclear war, solar flare. who the fuck knows.
but what i do know is that those in power need the system to function as is, and in newer more efficient ways, while they still need us, in order for them to have the highest potential survival rate when it all comes crashing down at the end of this century. so, we may just avoid total annihilation unless its deemed necessary for their survival. lets hope we rise up before they take that opportunity.
MBech@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
Also, 99% of the time, a simple “Give me a source on that”, will get rid of any inaccuracy or lies from the AI. Granted, that would mean people would have to use it as a tool, instead of trusting every word, which would invalidate most of the anti-ai people’s arguments.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This rant made me realize people need to go work at a fucking gas station for a few weeks and find out how truly. Fucking stupid and uneducated the avg person is.
LLMs even as they are right now are so far beyond what a very sizeable part of the world is in terms of intelligence and education. It’s wild how stupid a lot people are.
And this isn’t even a recent thing it’s been like this for all of human history. People are for the most part God damn idiots. Some people are expectational in one or two narrow fields.
And barely anyone is good at more then a few.
Geodad@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This has literally never happened.
Maybe an analytical model.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
It happened to me once. Then I started giving LLMs more chances afterwards and it made me waste a lot more than the time it had saved me with that one single initial success.
Gladaed@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Nah. They are decent enough for shallow knowledge and finding related Keywords.
swagmoney@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
me, vibe-debugging my Debian machine
Kage520@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have found LLMs are good for getting your bearings and overall idea in place. I just used it for an overview of ESPHome for a specific LED I am trying to program a sunrise effect. It got me some wrong pseudocode, but did in fact point me in the direction of where to go to flash and what to do to compile the yaml file, and the relevant documentation for what I was trying to achieve. And the wrong pseudocode was actually a useful starting point to get a feel for the syntax.
It’s a useful tool. But it can totally talk you out of good ideas and make you feel like you explored all options when it has absolutely not.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
The AI actually solved psychological barriers I had (along with co-workers forcing me to open up), they were quite the wombo combo.
Then I got far worse ones from work. I’m now basically an anti-pleasure monk that is trying to decouple happiness from success, just trying to accumulate power and money instead.
cornshark@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
LLMs can have an existential crisis quite well enough thank you: reddit.com/…/this_is_downright_terrifying_and_sad…
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
Im convinced they made search engines worse to promote AI usage.
cRazi_man@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
Search engines were returning shit more and more, before LLMs even existed.
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
When search engine optimization becomes a target, content suffers. If Google changed their algorithm to only rank websites with high quality content instead of keyword-stuffed content, we’d see a great improvement in the quality of the internet.
87Six@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
So they were enshittifying search engines in advance, so what?
mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I’ve never seen convincing arguments for that. However, if you think about it, Google wants you to stay scrolling through it forever. The more sponsored links and ads they can show, the more money they make. They didn’t need to make it worse for AI, they made it worse for profit
LoreSoong@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
Im encountering alot of AI created websites that explain concepts like “side effects of X pill” (a recent example) and there was basically no real medical websites in the top results, Just clearly AI using thousands of words to say nothing that I cant trust.
I was considering locally hosting a search engine to circumvent my need for them entirely. Search engine optimization seems like a nightmare, if they were trying to give me useful results. So im not sure if that would be a spend 5 hours to save 5 minutes situation.
As you and others said, Its been getting worse for years so its probably just a coincidence that its also profitable for AI.
markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t think it’s intentional, but I think the sheer quantity of AI slop and web crawlers trying to train new AI models is the main problem. Good websites are blocking access to search engines to try to slow crawler traffic, while shitty websites are being made at an unprecedented speed. I legitimately don’t know how you fix this as a search engine provider.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Cmon. How many people used to say something was not done intentionally, only to be proven wrong again and again. Remember the syphilis experiments on black people that the USA gov secretly did? And that doctors co-operated with? The panama papers? The Phobos Cartel?
Always assume they are doing it on purpose! At least someone is aware they are sabotaging their search engine, and plans to profit from it.