I have. Oddly enough, I don’t remember any Gearbox game with a Gearbox engine?
Randy Pitchford Snaps Back at Borderlands 4 Criticism: 'Code Your Own Engine'
Submitted 10 hours ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://insider-gaming.com/randy-pitchford-borderlands-4-criticism-snap/
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xep@discuss.online 2 hours ago
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 hours ago
Take your own advice? What games do they have not on some other developer’s engine? Other than their initial expansions for Half-Life, which are basically mods for Half-Life, all the games I know they have done were built on various iterations of Unreal Engine.
SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 4 hours ago
Gonna keep repeating it until it sticks:
Don’t touch Gearbox shit. They showed their true colours when they embezzled Colonial Marines.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Pitchford’s brain dead takes killed any chance that I was going to play Borderlands 4.
Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
I think it should be taken a bit further and just don’t buy anything from 2K if you can.
Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Yeah I’m pretty sure for $70 a functional engine should be the bare minimum.
What a fucking chode.
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
I don’t need to be a three star Michelin chef to realize that the plate of shit I have just been served is in fact a plate of shit. Similarly, I also don’t need to be a game developer to see that the buggy mess of a game gearbox just released is not worth my time.
Bentdreadnot@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I mean… You first?
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I think that’s exactly his point.
mintiefresh@piefed.ca 8 hours ago
I wasn't going to buy this game at all, but now I really won't buy it.
What an ass.
aviationeast@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I was gonna buy it when it was 50% off with the dlcs included. Now, gotta see that performance first.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Randy Bitchford cries about a problem he created, More at 11.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
I can’t believe I’ve somehow never seen ‘Randy Bitchford’, but that’s his new name now, christ what a fucking diva.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I’ve been calling him that since he got all whiney about the Duke Nukem forever flop, Glad that there are now 2 of us.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 hours ago
I’ve read reports that people can’t get more than 30fps on low settings on 4000 series cards. I’m definitely not one to expect sweet 120fps on ultra on launch day, but a 4000 card not even getting low settings? They failed. Hard.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Hey guys, you know what we really need for a IP propertt that is famous for a rather simplistic cel shaded art style?
The most complicated realtime lighting amd rendering engine in the world.
… I could smack him with a fucking book, holy shit this is so stupid.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 hours ago
Don’t you know that gamers demand hyper realistic graphics? Even when there is a defined art style it doesn’t matter. Realism.
It’s famously why comic books failed to captivate anyone, and cartoons are never successful.
caut_R@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Cheaping out on optimization is one thing, telling customers to basically eat shit if they have a problem with it is… something that‘s not gonna have any major consequences nowadays, I guess lol
What a time we live in
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Don’t you guys have
phones90-series graphics cards?jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I don’t need to personally be an engineer to call out a train wreck when I see one…
TheBat@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I’m not a pilot, but if I see a helicopter upside down in a tree I’m pretty sure someone fucked up.
Flamekebab@piefed.social 7 hours ago
Randy, you molest your employees with that mouth?!
SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
My friend with a RX 7900 XT can barely run it.
At 1080p.
On Medium.
Shove it up your ass, Gearbox.
tal@lemmy.today 18 minutes ago
Is he running with antialiasing on?
Looking at their system settings page:
borderlands.2k.com/…/amd-optimization/
Their settings for every single GPU listed there seems to have antialiasing off.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Randy pitchfork is a piece of shit that needs to stfu
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
mohab@piefed.social 9 hours ago
Yo, Randy, eat your own shit! Don't forget to swallow!
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
Obligatory dril tweet about not “Gotta hand it to them”
But yeah. It is infuriating how often people just spew nonsense about “it is Unreal so it runs like shit” just like it was when “It is Unity so it runs like shit” and so forth. I very much do not think people need to “code (their) own engine” to understand things but… it would be a good idea to to do some basic research on the topic.
I can’t speak for blands 4 specifiaclly. But with a lot of these games? People don’t realize that the game is very much being optimized with upscaling and even framegen in mind. You can say you hate that if you want to. But these studios aren’t targeting 120 FPS at 4k. They are targeting 120 FPS at 2k or even 60 FPS at 2k. In large part because… there still isn’t a lot of value in actually targeting 4k on any console or even most PCs. So it gives them more or less a “single” target. And some techniques don’t scale anywhere near as well (also 2k to 4k is not linear).
It is just that people grew up in the golden age where everything was targeting a PS4 and kind of has been for almost a decade at this point. So the idea of futzing with your graphics settings and checking the different AA (now upscaling) models is kind of anathema to a lot of users. And consoles STILL try to hide all of that.
SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
If I buy a 1000 dollar graphics card I’m expecting it to run any game at max settings with NO upscaling. Because that was the norm for over 20 years.
Upscaling is supposed to be used to EXTEND the life of lower end graphics cards, not be the new fucking normal.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
You can expect whatever you want. That isn’t what is being sold. That’s why so much of the nVidia bullshit insists that reviewers and partners report upscaling and framegen as the “normal” results (and why outlets like Gamers Nexus are on their shitlist).
And the “norm for over 20 years” was that games targeted a specific range of hardware “power”. That is why so much work was put into engines to support higher res models in first person view that would only be one per scene and lower res models that other characters have. And scaling detail based on distance and so forth. But it also meant that we didn’t have the ridiculously high res hero models that might only exist for cutscenes because no computer of the era would be able to run that performantly in real time.
Personally? I would LOVE if more effort were put in for scalability (which Unreal is ironically really good at because it targets film). But that gets back into what the target audience is and if it is worth putting the effort in for “Mega Ultra Super Epic” settings when nobody is going to use them. And… considering that one of the biggest issues is people refuse to put more research in than “I set it to High”… yeah.
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
It’s a PC. It could run one thing great and another like total dog shit. A games performance hinges on so much more than just a graphics card.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 hours ago
I feel like they’d make more money if they started lower end machines. My friend has a potato laptop and would enjoy borderlands, so they’re out of luck. They’re not going to spend any money on a new gaming toy because it’s not that big a hobby for them. I imagine there are many such people.
wafflesies@infosec.exchange 7 hours ago
@inclementimmigrant borderlands 4 running like dogshit on a 5090 is going to make me crash out in the most legendary way
aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
No
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Seems fine in performance mode on PS5. Windows users having trouble?
It’s funny given they use unreal.
CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 7 hours ago
I run a 7800X3D on and X870 mobo, 64gb ram and an RTX3090, and couldn’t run it at my native 7680x2160 resolution and have a playable framerate. It was fine at 3840x1080, but randomly crashed to desktop (at 1/4 my normal resolution, that I can even play Star Citizen at.)
I refunded it after 3 hours. This was before Randy’s ridiculous response to the criticism. I was planning on buying again later when it’s fixed, but now I’m not so sure. The man is his own worst enemy.
Fluke@feddit.uk 6 hours ago
He’s a bell end. He’s always been a bell end. I had the dubious pleasure of meeting him when I was working as a games press outfit’s tech monkey over a decade ago at Gamescom in Cologne.
Every other word out of his mouth was a business buzzword, he’s smarmy and smug, my skin crawled the whole time he was present.
It looks like he’s as high on his own farts now as he was back then.
tacotroubles@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Oh, I was unaware randy coded unreal engine all by himeself. I take back every negative thing i ever said about the fucking Twat
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Yeah, fucking what?
What the fuck does that even mean?
Randy is… what… when was the last time this asshat even wrote any code, much a less engine?
20 years?
No, seriously, when actually was the last time he wrote any code?
He founded Gearbox in 99… and by 2005, they liscensed UE 3… prior to that, they’d been working with UE2… and Source…
I think you have to back prior to Gearbox, to Duke Nukem 3D and Lo Wang, to find somewhere Randy may actually have contributed to game engine code.
In conclusion:Fuck you Randy.
Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
You’d think since 2005 they’d be experienced enough to know how to work with UE but noooo…