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• BurnSquirrel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have a little bit of schadenfreude at the PS fan club moaning about exclusives, since their whole system is built around exclusives.

  But in the end the point stands, exclusives (from anyone) are bad for consumers.

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  • Pixelle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Kushan@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think you were down voted by suggesting that your own personal experience is representative of all PlayStation owners.

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    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve waited patiently and now Spiderman will be on Steam.

      Id say go PC and join us.

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    • fushuan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe it’s the fact that Sony has a huge history of creating exclusives for its console, that people now don’t give a fuck that Sony won’t get a game. That’s what it gets for crying wolf so long.

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  • phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sony has a twenty-plus year track record of buying studios and talent to produce IP and growing them. Microsoft buys studios for existing IP and doesn’t improve it. Their “exclusive” strategies are very different.

    Microsoft passed on the Spider-Man IP luckily for everyone. They would have fucked it up.

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    • NuPNuA@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I disagree with the “doesn’t improve” statement. Starfield has launched in a much better state than most Bethesda Studios games due to the extra development time MS money gave them. Also Pentiment, a game Sawyer said he wouldn’t have been able to do without MS support for Obsidian.

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    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sony has a twenty-plus year track record of buying studios and talent to produce IP and growing them.

      Lol Sony propaganda right here.

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• redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The Elder Scrolls VI will skip PS5 and isn’t coming until at least 2026

  So, it might be coming to PS6?

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  • ScornForSega@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    PS6, PS7 and maybe PS8.

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  • tasty4skin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The chart in the article doesn’t specify a generation, so I seriously doubt it’ll come out on Playstation at all if plans don’t change

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  • CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No, it’s saying it won’t release (on Xbox and pc) until at least 2026

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• Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Microsoft now owns them lol. They lied through their teeth about selling cross platform.

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  • halvo317@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m shocked. Shocked. Well not that shocked.

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• dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Bethesda didn’t do this sort of thing before Microsoft bought them.

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  • lustyargonian@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Actually, Morrowind was an Xbox exclusive, and Oblivion was a launch game and since PS3 released a year later, it became a 360 exclusive. Bethesda also made Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo PS5 exclusive before being bought by Microsoft. So yeah, Bethesda has done such stuff in the past.

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    • dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ignorance fought. Or bad memory.

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    • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oblivion came out almost a year after launch though

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    • wavebeam@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I own oblivion on PS3

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  • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Skyrim had a worse mod experience on Playstation, but I think that was on Sony.

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    • NuPNuA@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, Sony don’t allow as deep system access as MS do not access to their proprietary audio codecs making mods more limited for the PS4 versions of Skyrim and Fallout.

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  • MaxVoltage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    just be greatful there is a game

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    • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There were Bethesda games before Microsoft bought them. So no.

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• Shurimal@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Honestly, the best platform to play Bethesda games is PC anyway. What makes Bethesda special is their embracing of modding, and PC being an open platform allows for much, much more in that respect. IIRC, on Playstation one couldn't even use custom assets in mods, and console makers will never allow script extenders, .NET frameworks and ENB series that allow for amazing stuff on PC.

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  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I can’t imagine playing any Bethesda game without mods.

    They don’t just make the game playable. They make them go from 8 to a perfect 10.

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  • dubba@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sure, but I think most people would just like to play the game on the system they already have.

    Not releasing on PlayStation solely because Bethesda is owned by Microsoft, and MS want to sell more Xboxs, is anti consumer.

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    • float@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Exclusive content is always anti customer.

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    • loobkoob@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not releasing on PlayStation solely because Bethesda is owned by Microsoft, and MS want to sell more Xboxs, is anti consumer.

      It's less that Microsoft wants to sell more Xboxes and more that they want to sell more Game Pass subscriptions. That's their primary model at this point. They even said a couple of years ago that their first-party games will be released on any platforms that support Game Pass. Basically, they were saying if Sony allowed Game Pass on PlayStation, Microsoft would release their first party games on PlayStation.

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• Sibbo@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I first thought that this must be some illegal form of abuse of market power, but then I realised that consoles are purposefully made to run only the software specifically made for them. So they are kinda digging their own grave.

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  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    consoles are purposefully made to run only the software specifically made for them.

    xbox and PS are basically mini PCs that can run the same stuff with relatively minimal tweaking. exclusive games of both platforms are pure anti-consumer bullshit.

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    • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe Valve should take another crack at the console market.

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    • halvo317@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Buying companies to make them exclusive is anti-consumer. Starting first party studios to facilitate unique games being made on your platform is not anti-consumer. If anything, it should create competition for high quality exclusives by investing in unique game designers. When Microsoft just buys Rare, Mojang, Activision, Blizzard, King, Bethesda, Arkane, Alpha Dog, etc, it’s not to create competition.

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    • NuPNuA@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not anti-consumer, people know the market they’re buying into when they buy a console. If you want to play everything, buy a PC.

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  • Poggervania@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s not even including the fact that companies pay extra to keep a game on a specific console with console exclusives.

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• DeriHunter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They’re going to fuck it up anyway

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  • Murvel@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Starfield is currently the 6th most played game on Steam. What makes you think they would fail ES6?

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    • loobkoob@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And it's on Game Pass. In my friend group, 80% of us are playing it via Game Pass rather than on Steam. Obviously that's anecdotal, and other groups of people won't have any Game Pass subscribers among them, but I have to imagine the number of Game Pass players of Starfield is pretty damn high.

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  • mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Looking at the Steam charts for Redfall is quite something. What a dumster-fire inside a train wreck.

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    • NuPNuA@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ok, but that’s an Arkane Austin game who have nothing to do with Bethesda Studios, they just happen to be owned by Zenimax/Bethesda Softworks.

      Starfield is a better comparison and while it has its detractors, sales and player number wise it’s doing great.

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• Weirdfish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  When Oblivon was an Xbox exclusive, Sony turned to Fromsoft to create an RPG for Playstation to compete with ES4.

  The whole project tanked, and from the ashes we go Demon’s Souls. A whole new genre of gaming was born, and we’re all better off for it.

  Hopefully something similar will happen this gen.

  I have always been a huge fan of Bethesda games, well, fallout and elder scrolls at least. I would love to play ES6.

  That said, there is no way I’m but another game system just for a handful of games.

  Honestly, considering that Skyrim has been ported to every single device w a processor in it, I’d be very surprised if we don’t see a PS5 release of Starfield next xmass season. That is just way too much money to be left on the table.

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  • jasondj@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When square was solidly in bed with Sony, MS made Fable.

    Nowadays the only system thats worth it for exclusives is Nintendo, IMO. And that’s almost entirely for first-party games.

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• aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh no, not another big empty I can’t play. /s

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• beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How is this news?

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  • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a major historically cross platform franchise, for one thing.

    The Activision Blizzard merger and the UK’s serious reservations about Microsoft’s monopoly makes this news even more important.

    Should this game be restricted to Microsoft platforms and not include the Sony platform , it would show that they are lying about being well intentioned and non monopolistic.

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    • beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I thought the UK’s reservations were more over the cloud streaming market than console exclusivity.

      But the reason I ask why this is “news” is because this little fact has been known for quite a while now.

      I also wouldn’t really categorize The Elder Scrolls as a “historically cross-platform franchise” when only one numbered entry has shipped on anything other than PC or Xbox. Fallout would make more sense here.

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    • Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Both Morrowind and Oblivion were released as Xbox exclusives, so it’s definitely not a “major historically cross plattform franchise”. Only Skyrim was released for both (though Oblivion did get ported to PS later).

      Fallout is another matter though, since they’ve been released for both since Fallout 3.

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    • tal@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s a major historically cross platform franchise, for one thing.

      Also, there aren't a whole lot of game developers that do Bethesda-style games.

      I haven't played any Mario games in a long time, and I don't know what they look like after consoles went 3d. But go back some decades, and they were side-scrolling platform games. There were lots of other side-scrolling platformers. The Mario series was a particularly good series, but it had lots of competition.

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• Brodude@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ps5 owner and you are sad? It will be PS7 until they release it.

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  • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Don’t accept planned obsolescence.

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    • beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The industry should have stopped with the Magnavox Odyssey, every new console released since has been a scam to take more of your money.

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    • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This isn’t a case of planned obsolescence…The PS5 is 3 years old now and was designed to be as powerful as it could be while still hitting the price point. This game won’t come out for another 3 years.

      6 years is a long time and I really don’t expect console manufacturers to plan their hardware for around it. They have price points to hit and consoles would cost twice as much

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    • greavous@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So don’t buy a console at all then?

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    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They should release it on PS3 then?

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• stopthatgirl7@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I figure we all had to know this was coming.

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• FMT99@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  After the Starfield debacle I can’t say I’m super interested to play the game anyway. 10+ years and they only slightly improved the basic engine. It feels like a game made in 2010 with slightly more decent graphics. So yeah no high hopes for ES6 when it comes out.

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• Lols@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Extremely disappointed, loved fallout and elder scrolls but sounds like im avoiding this studio indefinitely

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  • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s Microsofts problem. Greedy fucking asshats bought Zenimax and therefore Bethesda and then said “Xbox exclusive only from now on.” (Xbox and PC can be treated as the same for Microsoft)

    I have a PC, but I still can’t fucking stand this exclusive bullshit just to force people to buy their shit consoles. I loathe consoles for what they do to the potential games quality… so many sacrifices have to be made for shit hardware. :/

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• MaxVoltage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  a lot of ps5 are will be traded in for an xbone the day that comes out lmao

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  • paultimate14@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As a PS5 owner… Bethesda games are better on a desktop than a console anyways. It might as well be PC only for all I care lol.

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  • halvo317@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That console is ten years old lol

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  • Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    ROFL… no.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They take so long between entries that there’ll be adults with a PS5 who don’t even know what The Elder Scrolls is, let alone get excited for it.

  We’ve had The Witcher 3. We’ve had Baldur’s Gate 3. Another clunky Bethesda “RPG” isn’t going to get the juices flowing like it did… fucking hell, 12 years ago.

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• Powerpoint@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s fine. It’s still coming to PC. The threat of Sony making everything exclusive was too real

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• kaonashi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  if it’s first person, then it’s going to be better on pc anyway

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