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This isn’t a case of planned obsolescence…The PS5 is 3 years old now and was designed to be as powerful as it could be while still hitting the price point. This game won’t come out for another 3 years.

6 years is a long time and I really don’t expect console manufacturers to plan their hardware for around it. They have price points to hit and consoles would cost twice as much

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ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
6 years isn’t that long in pc specs anymore. Companies are intentionally keeping generations shorter than they need to be ever since 360/ps3 era ended up being so long.

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- Xanvial@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Am i missing something, I’m pretty sure PS3 and PS4 have same lifespan about 7 years, from release to next version release. Half of new games also still released on PS4. Life of P is the latest example. It’s almost 10 years, I don’t think 10 years old PC can still play that
  
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  - ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Wikipedia list 360 and ps3 as 11 years. I didn’t think ps4 was still active, but it’s also pushing a decade now. Xbox one only got 7 years.
    
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- BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It’s a different thing IMO, futzing around with PC settings is a pain to a lot of people, which is where consoles lie. Also your 6 year old PC cost twice what your console did. It’s not a like for like comparison.
  
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  - eltimablo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I haven't futzed with settings in years. Most new games automatically pick the settings for you.
    
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    BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    NGL, I don’t game as much as I used to so the sample size is probably terrible and I’m on ultrawide which only makes it worse, but the last couple of games I’ve installed either went a bit too conservative on settings or enabled some form of ray tracing because my graphics card supports it - but ultimately it made the game an unpleasant experience.
    
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- glimse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yeah your high end PC from 6 years ago will still run new games, but will your mid-tier laptop from 6 years ago?
  
  I don’t think you can fairly compare the two that way because PCs aren’t built for mass market affordability.
  
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  - tal@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Hmm. I'd think that a desktop would probably be most-comparable to a console (well, okay, other than portable consoles).
    
    And the price difference isn't that high these days. It used to be enormous:
    
    Go back to the NES, which came out in 1983:
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System
    
    Introductory price: ¥14,800 (Japan) US$179 (equivalent to $530 in 2022)
    
    Compare to the IBM PC (which, frankly, lacked a lot of game-friendly hardware) and came out in 1981:
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer
    
    Introductory price: Starting at US$1,565 (equivalent to $5,040 in 2022)
    
    The Mac came out in 1984:
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K
    
    Introductory price: US$2,495 (equivalent to US$7,000 in 2022)
    
    The Apple II in 1977:
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II
    
    Introductory price: US$1,298 (equivalent to $6,270 in 2022)
    
    So the NES -- in inflation-adjusted dollars -- about what an Xbox Series X or PS5 cost.
    
    But nobody is spending $5k-$7k on a typical desktop today. And certainly not on one with comparable hardware to the existing consoles.
    
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Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
The console wars are largely an outdated concept, and I contend that ever-increasing hardware specs for gaming isn’t necessarily an evergreen paradigm.

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