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Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 months agoDon’t accept planned obsolescence.
This isn’t a case of planned obsolescence…The PS5 is 3 years old now and was designed to be as powerful as it could be while still hitting the price point. This game won’t come out for another 3 years.
6 years is a long time and I really don’t expect console manufacturers to plan their hardware for around it. They have price points to hit and consoles would cost twice as much
6 years isn’t that long in pc specs anymore. Companies are intentionally keeping generations shorter than they need to be ever since 360/ps3 era ended up being so long.
Am i missing something, I’m pretty sure PS3 and PS4 have same lifespan about 7 years, from release to next version release. Half of new games also still released on PS4. Life of P is the latest example. It’s almost 10 years, I don’t think 10 years old PC can still play that
Wikipedia list 360 and ps3 as 11 years. I didn’t think ps4 was still active, but it’s also pushing a decade now. Xbox one only got 7 years.
It’s a different thing IMO, futzing around with PC settings is a pain to a lot of people, which is where consoles lie. Also your 6 year old PC cost twice what your console did. It’s not a like for like comparison.
I haven't futzed with settings in years. Most new games automatically pick the settings for you.
Yeah your high end PC from 6 years ago will still run new games, but will your mid-tier laptop from 6 years ago?
I don’t think you can fairly compare the two that way because PCs aren’t built for mass market affordability.
Hmm. I'd think that a desktop would probably be most-comparable to a console (well, okay, other than portable consoles).
And the price difference isn't that high these days. It used to be enormous:
Go back to the NES, which came out in 1983:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System
Introductory price: ¥14,800 (Japan) US$179 (equivalent to $530 in 2022)
Compare to the IBM PC (which, frankly, lacked a lot of game-friendly hardware) and came out in 1981:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer
Introductory price: Starting at US$1,565 (equivalent to $5,040 in 2022)
The Mac came out in 1984:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K
Introductory price: US$2,495 (equivalent to US$7,000 in 2022)
The Apple II in 1977:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II
Introductory price: US$1,298 (equivalent to $6,270 in 2022)
So the NES -- in inflation-adjusted dollars -- about what an Xbox Series X or PS5 cost.
But nobody is spending $5k-$7k on a typical desktop today. And certainly not on one with comparable hardware to the existing consoles.
The console wars are largely an outdated concept, and I contend that ever-increasing hardware specs for gaming isn’t necessarily an evergreen paradigm.
So don’t buy a console at all then?
I’m happy with my Switch, PS4, various gaming PCs and emulators, and even a PS2 emulator on my phone. I have more games than I will ever have time for. I buy new games too, but only if I can actually own them. Best value of ownership is Switch cartridges, but discs are fine too. The worst format that I am happy to pay for is GOG.com copies without DRM.
They should release it on PS3 then?
Please note that that this is a days-old comment where other people have said the same sort of things already.
beefcat@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The industry should have stopped with the Magnavox Odyssey, every new console released since has been a scam to take more of your money.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There are probably interesting conversations to be had on it, and I think you’ve found one of the ones that aren’t!