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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨HikingVet@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Remember when some jokers started selling Faraday cages for Wi-Fi routers on Amazon, claiming that it would protect the user from wireless signals?

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    • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      well i mean they’re not lying

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  • EvilFonzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    “I see the problem, your AP is in the Faraday Chasity Cage. Closing ticket.”

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    • match@pawb.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Putting my horny robots in the faraday chastity cage

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  • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is a 2.4 GHz directional WiFi antenna. Only the back element is connected to the transceiver. All of the other elements are there to focus the signal. Anything metallic within a few feet of an antenna will have a substantial effect on the signal. Think of it as light, because it is, only transparency of materials is a bit weird. The biggest issues will come from metallic materials that are earth grounded and anything with a wire length that is close to the wavelength of the radio light or below, especially around half and a quarter of the wavelength. That pictured wire pitch is spaced very close to the approximate 2.4 GHz wave length. For example most antenna are an insulated trace on a circuit board that is insulated with ground up to a point and then there is a small circuit element that stops the ground and the actual antenna trace continues for the respective light wavelength to transmit or receive. All an antenna is here is an exposed length of single conductor wire.

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    • SupraMario@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s just an AP. That’s not a directional antenna for a wireless bridge. You can even read the AP sticker on it.

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      • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        All those confident words they typed... for nothing. Lol

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      • tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, It looks like a Cisco Aironet 2702i WAP.

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      • SteveTech@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I think they were trying to say that the cage in front with the AP behind, acts as a directional antenna. Similar to how Yagi antennas have metal elements that aren’t connected in front of the actual antenna.

        But I don’t know enough antenna theory to know if that’s correct.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Even if this was right, which it isn’t, wifi stopped being 2.4Ghz exclusive almost 20 years ago. You have 5Ghz and since 5 year ago or so, 6Ghz, with significantly shorter wavelengths.

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      • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And if I look at the frequency spectrum I see that all my neighbours use 2.4GHz (9 wifis in channel 8) and I got the entire 5GHz spectrum to myself.

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  • Justdaveisfine@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hmm I don’t think I get this one.

    Is it because its in a cage? I don’t think that will do much to block the WiFi antenna.

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The bar spacing is smaller than 2.4GHz radio waves. It absolutely will affect signal. Should have used a plastic cage.

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      • Grostleton@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Are they really that big? Huh, TIL.

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      • Aqarius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Doesn’t look grounded, though.

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Wifi is a fickle beast, though you may be right.

      The elements of the cage will probably interfere, but won’t straight up block the signal. To be an effective faraday cage, holes in the material must be no bigger than 1/10th the wavelength.

      2.4GHz wifi has a wavelength of 12cm, and 5GHz is about 5cm…so holes in the cage should be no bigger than 1.2cm for 2.4GHz, or 0.5cm for 5GHz.

      Problem #1 is this AP is oriented vertically on a wall. The antennas in these models are designed to be parallel to the floor, and usually not much higher than 15ft.

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      • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        2.4GHz wifi has a wavelength of 12cm

        that’s actually massive, I thought it would be like half a centimeter at most

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage

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      • Grostleton@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Faraday cages cannot block stable or slowly varying magnetic fields, such as the Earth’s magnetic field (a compass will still work inside one). To a large degree, however, they shield the interior from external electromagnetic radiation if the conductor is thick enough and any holes are significantly smaller than the wavelength of the radiation

        I’m certainly no expert, but something tells me the cage in OP’s pic doesn’t fit the criteria to act as a faraday cage.

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  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Maybe if use smaller, tighter squares.

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  • marighost@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I'm just impressed they labelled the WAP.

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    • assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Get a bucket and a mop for that wireless access point

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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        *Wet Access Point.

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  • ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Faraday was here!

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  • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They need more “I” in their IT, plastic protectors exist.

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    • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      it’s higher than eye-level, they don’t need a cage for it at all. It’s not even locked, just use any old Phillips screwdriver to remove the 4 screws!

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      • JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The cage is to protect it from flying balls.

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      • Coreidan@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Why would it be locked???

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  • possumparty@lemm.ee ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah boss the RSSI numbers look great!

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  • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The mesh is just about the size of the wifi wage length

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  • pewpew@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Oh I see the issue… They forgot to ground the cage

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