Submitted 3 weeks ago by toynbee@lemmy.world to [deleted]
My wife pronounces it three different ways, each of which she can support. I pronounce it one, but other than that it’s the way I’ve heard it I can’t support my pronunciation even after some searches. What’s yours and why?
sen-tor
As in taurus, which rhymes with torus.
This is the only way in English I’ve ever known
A bunch of Americans pronounce it sen-tar for some reason that I’ve never understood.
That’s one of my wife’s answers.
You’re very prompt.
That’s how merriam webster pronounces it! I’d pronounce it like that as well, got curious, so I googled
This is how I pronounce it in Canada
Correctly, smugly and pretentiously
Nice.
ken-tavr, I think that’s similar to how it pronounced in a lot of languges around here, it’s also pretty similar how original greeks did it (kένταυροι)
Solid.
Like the other commenter I pronounce it sen-tor. Just like the word “dinosaur” I would pronounce die-no-sor if that makes sense. Both words end in “aur”.
…though now you’ve got me curious about how you and your wife pronounce dinosaur :)
Dino-saw. That’s just because of how the DNA molecule character pronounces it in Jurassic Park, and it cracks me up.
I always heard it as dina-sour in Jurassic Park, can’t shake that mental reference haha
If it’s in a Greek or ancient Latin context I pronounce it with a hard C, but if it’s a general English context I pronounce it with a soft C.
I’m not sure what the third way would be.
The third way would be a difference in how the diphthong is pronounced: “-aur” or “-ower.”
So far, the main way I haven’t seen suggested.
I guess I owe my wife an apology.
I pronounce it like sen + tar, and accent it like boxcar.
Scent-ore
Simply “englishified” from French where I’ve ever heard only one way, Centaur (100 tor).
sen-tar
“sen-” like “cent” (like 25 cents), and “-tar” like “a tar pit”
Cent-aur.
Cent-our
Cen-toor
¢-aur — I’m not sure why I pronounce it that way; it’s just how I’ve always pronounced it.
sen-tar.
i could see sen-tor.
I pronounce it “Phil”. And he would appreciate it if you would stop staring at his missing eye.
Ken (as the name) - ta (with a hard T and A as in catapult) - ur (with an u like in Vonnegut’s name)
tho I’m from europe speaking a weird ass language
Danish?
that’s weird, too, but no
Sin tar is the usual way, though it’ll sometimes come out more sin tawr, where the au is a bit more drawn out.
Sin tore is a fairly common one.
However, sin tar is more common, at least with what I’ve heard in meat space. That’s a fairly limited thing though, since most of the people I have talked to over my fifty years have been fellow southerners. We do tend to use softer vowels in most cases, and tar is softer than tore in the way we tend to do vowels.
However, with the latin and Greek origins of the word, I’d argue that the tar or tawr would lean closer to that than tore, just because of similar words. When an au is present in medical terminology (which is where almost all of my latin and Greek comes from) it usually gets pronounced aw or ah, not oh.
But, I never hear anyone pronounce the initial C as a K, and that’s the way it would have been in both of those languages originally. The Greek version is spelled with a K, when written with the usual alphabet rather than Greek. Kentauros.
Which is an aside.
Wikipedia lists the two I did as the usual pronunciations, fwiw. And all the dictionaries with audio options are either those two, or slight variations of them, where the au sound is rounder or flatter than the norm.
Thing is, it’s a word in a living language. Whatever the original English pronunciation may have been, that can change, so supporting a pronunciation is kind of meaningless. What matters is consensus over time, and by location.
So, a regional accent that sounds more like cent-ur is just as valid in that region, it just isn’t standard. So would any other variant be, if there’s enough people using it to be called a consensus.
I see that your dialect pronounces “pen” and “pin” the same. Midwestern US?
Southeast.
Senn-torr
The “taur” is probably the same root as in “Taurus” and "el Toro"¹, which I’ve only ever heard said like torr, so I say it the same. The first part I don’t think is ever said anything other than “senn” right?
¹I can’t back that up, since they mean bull not horse and I have no sources. We do see the same root pop up in “Minotaur” from the same language though, and that is a part bull part man.
After reading this thread i don’t know anymore.
Cen tar
Or cen tor
I don’t pay close enough attention to myself to be sure which i normally say
Both relatable and understandable. Thank you for the answer!
Kenta-kun thsnks to a Japanese dota 2 stream
In Finnish we say kentauri and you can go ahead and imagine Japanese pronunciation for it and it’s mostly the same. Finnish is just more neutral in tone imo
Sen-towr
Sehn-tar, because I am American and that’s how I learned to say it. How am I meant to justify a common pronunciation?
sans-taure (because I’m francophone)
C’est la voie.
tsen-taür, where ü is not an umlaut, but a diaeresis meaning that you pronounce the second vowel in a row, like in naïve or coöperation.
I come from Poland and we read in a consistent way.
The way shit’s written \s.
Such a question would make no sense in Polish.
coöperation.
I come from Poland and we read in a consistent way.
Okay I don’t doubt yours is consistent, but it’s really hard to grasp. I come from Finland and in the Nordics you would never get oö öo aä or äa combinations I’m pretty sure. Å can go with a but a doesn’t really go with ö I don’t think and uhm.
Anyways my point is I’ve no idea how you would go about trying to pronounce coöperation. Or rather what your idea of it is.
I’d couldn’t argue which is more constant, but Finnish is every consistent. And pretty much in line with IPA.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Finnish
hevonen [ˈheʋonen]
hernekeitto [ˈherneˌkːei̯tːo]
tule! [ˈtuˌle]
Example of words with their IPA pronunciation. When something like “geography” in English is “ʤɔ́grəfɪj”.
Those don’t look alike at all. So I’m sure polish can be consistent, but to me at least, I’d be afraid of how complex that consistency is.
In Finnish wr say “kentauri” and in ipa that’s pretty much the same.
Finnish pronunciation feels to me like a subset of Polish. The only difference is the stressed syllable.
You are saying you never read two vowels in a row? You just make them longer?
After writing that I see that contradicts the “subset” sentence.
Sɛntɵ
sin-a-tar just because it seems right, even though the spelling clearly indicates otherwise.
Well, it seems not a single other person agrees with me on my choice of pronunciation, but it’s nice to not be the only one whose answer isn’t based on the spelling!
Thank you for the answer.
The most incorrect pronunciation i can come up with is probably ken-TAH-oo-ur
That’s like the most correct one if there even could be a ‘correct’ way to pronounce a word of foreign origin in most languages.
In English, it’s a matter of honor to mangle foreign loan words, unless you’re the kind of twit who pedantically pronounces foreign words as though you’re not speaking English, but the language of origin. That’s most common with French loanwords, since French was once considered higher-prestige than English. But I’ve even heard people attempting to pronounce Arabic words like that, despite having no idea of Arabic phonology or case inflection, with ridiculous results.
the Greeks in here are saying that’s basically correct.
Well, apparently my answer (“sen-chwar”) is also very incorrect. Someone else in this thread also answered “sen-a-tar.” I would argue both beat yours for incorrectness, as they don’t fit the spelling.
I thought mine was based on something French, based on almost nothing, but another person in the thread has corrected that theory.
Sentour.
Can’t are
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Sen-tar.
toynbee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I thought this question would get almost no attention, but so far I’ve gotten almost one response per minute. Well predicted.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
I even learned that local language changes things from a couple replies, which I hadn’t considered.
futatorius@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Me too. I’m not a pedantic Latin-pronouncer who’d say “ken-tower”
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 3 weeks ago
I recognise that “kentawor” is correct, but reject it because “sentar” just sounds more correct.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I pronounce it centaur, as in it rhymes with faur, kaur, boobaur. You know, the “aur” sound, like “ooohhuuuurrr” but more dynamic.
DrainKikoLake@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I saw sen-tar as well!