Submitted 1 month ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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So miniscule it won’t poison you but just enough to prevent tooth decay. You really can’t have it both ways. Pretending there is any real control over measurement is also ridiculous. Not to mention there is no need to drink fluoride.
You know what does work? Using fluoride topically and getting good dental care.
Those are different mechanisms, why can’t they have different concentrations?
I don’t know. I do know fluoride works topically. I also know there is no mechanism in the body to return fluoride to the teeth topically after it is swallowed.
So drinking fluoride is pointless.
The question about this is that the same can be said about lead. Do we want to consume that?
No. It can’t be said for fluoride. Lead is known to be extremely toxic. We’ve seen what it does. Fluoride in water is not toxic, which has been shown multiple times.
Your argument is asinine.
I don’t know why people can’t keep an open mind and look at issues without prejudice. What did I do to you for the name calling?
Anyway fluoride in water can be toxic. It’s all about the dose
I am still concerned about fluoride, but for different reasons. The federal government says there is too much natural fluoride in our water so we must import water to dilute it. The federal government doesn’t trust us with police officers, or politicians, but surely the public water company isn’t corrupt or incompetent…surely.
But hey, our teeth are really white and no ones died from flouride, far more likely to die from sudden lead.
Having worked for a municipal water system, no, they are not incompetent when engineers are at the helm. Corruption I saw was related to giving small incidental work to friends, some weird politics sometimes, but that was about it.
More importantly: everyone understood our job wasn’t to make money, we were foundational to our city’s livelihood & health, that of our neighbors, our mother’s and brothers. Quality was job 1, and I really do mean that. Could we have moved faster and for less money? Maybe. But I’m glad we picked doing the job right over doing it fast.
The question is: does it make sense to buy toothpaste with fluoride then or can I buy one without? Just because my kids don’t like the peppermint ones and other flavours are most of the times without fluoride
Fluoridated toothpaste is more effective than drinking water. The fluoride works by direct contact with then enamel. Another reason it doesn’t make sense to put it in drinking water.
Fluoride in the water is beneficial in the pre-eruptive phase (when teeth are still growing). Fluoride ingestion increases tooth resistence to cavities if the ingestion happened while they were growing.
This does mean that fluoride in water isn’t really useful after you have all your permanent teeth though.
Always buy flouride toothpaste.
For other toothpaste that still strengthens enamel, there is toothpaste with hydroxyapatite (which can be ingested, at least that specific ingredient). Though it is probably more expensive.
Unfortunately hydroxyapatite is not approved for dental use in the United States of America.
fluoridation has nothing to with any teeth-related issues, it was all about the US industry having a way to dispose of fluoride, a byproduct of many industrial activities. You can’t just dump fluoride on a river as it has several adverse side-effects, but it you can convince everyone it is good for their health then it’s okay to dump it on the water supply.
Is this what you do? Just spread as many lies a possible on the internet?
lmao. rofl even. Fluoride is incredibly expensive AND useful, if you run an industry you wanna make sure you absolutely recover it from byproducts and reuse it, not to mention that with how low the levels in tap water are, it wouldn’t be even a good way of disposing a lot of it
No… just no
If that was true there are a lot of other things they could dump in the water
My thing is this…
Before even wondering about the health effects, we should ask ourselves whether it actually achieves the desired goal. I doubt that.
If it doesn’t, we don’t even need to wonder about safety; we’ll just stop burning money.
I asked myself and I had no idea.
I then looked to experts who make a career of studying theses things and are held to standards and peer review. There is a Cochrane review on this topic just updated last month. The answer is that yes it does help reduce childhood caries at least a little bit.
yes fluoride diffuses into enamel and chemically and mechanically hardens it. this effect is strongly linked to better dental outcomes for children and adults. also, tons of blaces actually remove fluoride to the needed levels because it is naturally higher.
That’s good. My first instinct would’ve been that what’s in toothpaste is plenty.
throws Coors light
“That’s just what they want you to think!”
Come up with a rebuttal to this that an ignorant right-winger would believe.
Depending on where you live, there is already enough naturally occurring fluoride in the well water that adding more doesn’t mean much. How else do you think they discovered fluoride helps your teeth?
Since I live in a rural area and need to have my own well, I know my water contains enough fluoride that it would be silly to add more. But some areas do not have enough naturally present. So it would be interesting to see the water test results for Florida cities to check the amount of naturally occurring fluoride present. YMMV
I never met the fellow. I never did the science either.
You all are easily impressed.
Same. I haven’t met any of the authors of books I read either.
That’s rather beside my point. As you well know.
Why play these games?
This post written by Big Fluoride.
That toxic byproduct of fertilizer production is not going to dump itself in our water supply am I riiight?
Cmon, at least get the byproducts main source correct in your propaganda comment!
Nah trust me bro.
It could likely be replaced with hydroxyapatite instead (it also can be used to remove lead and other things from water, which makes searching about being added to municipal water difficult). Good for not only teeth, also bones.
I also wonder if adding other vitamins would make more sense (just enough to stop deficiencies) if we’re talking about health outcomes, though the first idea I had with vitamin C came up with results of that messing with the chlorine in the water.
Let’s just not add things to water except to ensure it stays as close to safe from infectious disease as possible. Water is water, it shouldn’t be more than that. Even if what you add is safe for humans, what about the ten billion other uses tap water has that affects the environment.
People shouldn’t have to buy filters if they just want water instead of whatever some random group thinks the population needs instead of just water
Toxicology isn’t a real profession. These people are run by big toxicity. For real water advice you want a homeopath.
Used to be s thing about it turning your teeth green
Icecreamface@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
If democrats proposed this idea everyone would love it. Fuck trump but removing fluoride from the water is a good idea .
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The fluoride is intentionally added to the water to improve tooth health.
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Democrats would love it. Republicans would suddenly discover that flouride is the only thing standing between our children and the gay agenda.
Icecreamface@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Hahahaha exactly
kalleboo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My barometer is when it’s something that pretty much only the U.S. is obsessed with doing, then it’s probably a dumb thing caused by lobbyists or something.