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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why are abolishing slavery and establishing the Federal Reserve being treated as if they’re equivalently bad when they are very much not? This meme is subtly pushing a gold bug/crypto bro agenda.

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    • danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Cause Libertarians gonna libertary?

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      • pipows@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I also enjoy spreading libertarian propaganda

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    • jdeath@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      the fed makes us all slaves. chattel slavery was definitely worse tho

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      • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Gonna show your work or…?

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  • ahal@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Aww, lay off Johnathan. He’s a pioneer for gay rights, which is much more than can be said for any of you lot.

    Due to his advanced age, Jonathan spends his days doing almost everything with his mate, including eating, sleeping and mating… The sex of Frederica, … his companion since 1991, was cast into doubt in 2017 when island veterinarian Catherine Man indicated that due to a deformity of its plastron its sex could not be verified,[4] and is now known to be male, being renamed Frederik.

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      renamed Frederik.

      So they didn’t just reassess the gender, but also repatriated him by naming him after the king (then crown prince) of Denmark

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      • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Typical colonialist Jonathan bullshit.

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    • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My Plastron also got deformed when I had a GI Joe guy use a hair spray bottle as a blowtorch.

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    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      queer icon tortoise hell yeah

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  • JohnBrownII@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The 13th Amendment did not abolish slavery. It made it a punishment for a crime

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    • atocci@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sounds like Jonathan still has a chance to redeem himself then

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      • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Why do you assume Jonathan isn’t the reason the 13th amendment doesn’t abolish slavery?

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, it abolished slavery with an exception carved out for punishment for crime.

      The difference is important. Saying it was “made a punishment” suggests that before the amendment that option didn’t exist. It did. The 13th amendment just clarified that that use was allowed to continue.

      But, it’s also worth noting that in the late 1700s and early 1800s imprisonment was uncommon, and a lot of crimes just carried the death penalty. In England, pickpocketing more than the modern equivalent of about $40 could result in a death penalty. Same with cutting down trees, or stealing from a rabbit warren. For less serious crimes there were the stocks, whipping, and fines. England had an option that wasn’t available to the US: transportation. Australia was originally a penal colony, and the people sent there were forced to labour until their sentences were up.

      Prisons (along with their work programs) were seen as a new, progressive idea that could potentially reform a prisoner, rather than just killing / punishing them.

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  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    wikipedia:

    “His age is estimated because he was “fully mature” when brought to Saint Helena in 1882. “Fully mature” means at least 50 years old, giving him a hatching date no later than 1832.[8] A photograph featuring Jonathan originally thought to date from 1902 actually dates from 1886,[2] showing Jonathan four years after his arrival on Saint Helena. Measurements taken from the photograph show that he was fully mature in 1886.[citation needed]”

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    • yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well you did in fact check the facts.

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      • Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In December 2015, the St Helena vet Joe Hollins said that Jonathan was “alive and well […] He’s blind from cataracts, has lost his sense of smell, and so cannot detect food (his fellow giants mug him and can detect the tiniest morsel dropped on the ground), but he has retained excellent hearing.”[1]

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  • henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He did nothing that we know of.

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    • Zachariah@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Slow and steady wins the race.

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  • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh no, it’s only a matter of time before he runs for president.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Racist-ass turtle.

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    • doingthestuff@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He benefits from the labor of the working of the working class

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      • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Naw. He just enjoys lettuce and is chill.

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  • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Johnathan shot President Garfield

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  • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I thought about all the historic events this turtle witnessed and then I remembered he is a turtle

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  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He’s getting around to it; be patient

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  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Federal Reserve?

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    • callouscomic@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I take it you’ve never gotten in an argument with a libertarian?

      Imagine a libertarian in economics school. Yikes.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When I was in economics school we would go to the libertarian convention for shits and giggles. We were told by our professors explicitly not to heckle, just to giggle and treat it like a wildlife expedition. They were fun evenings.

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      • Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Austrian School isn’t horribly far off.

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        For this study, we asked the subjects to trade tokens. And now you can buy those tokens!

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  • random_character_a@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    …and will die 29 years after second civil war or what will be better known as failed MAGA uprising of the the mad orange king.

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  • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s not true. He did try to abolish slavery and stop the creation of the reserve, but tortoises move a little slower than humans do, and he just didn’t get there in time. But not for lack of trying.

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  • Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t tell the republicans, they might nominate him for president…

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    • some_designer_dude@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Jonathan would draw yuge crowds.

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  • creditCrazy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Even this random as tortoise is older than the Confederacy

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    • callouscomic@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well the Confederacy barely made it to 4 years old. Which explains why conservatives are creepily obsessed with it.

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  • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    #CancelJonathanTheTortoise

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  • amorangi@lemmy.nz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Turtles are born?

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  • acockworkorange@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bear Grylls. Bear Grylls! What kind of a name is that? Are you an animal or a bit of an oven? I bet you went to private school, didn’t you?

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