Nice, a Lemmy post of a picture of a Tumblr post citing reddit for a completely bogus fact. We truly are using all of our brains these days.
Girl power
Submitted 7 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Running wasn’t invented until the late 15th century, when Thomas Running tried to walk twice at the same time!
PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 7 months ago
What do you mean. Random internet screenshots are among the most reputable source. I’m citing this in a scientific work right now.
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It seems to be kinda true but not really? The term was coined by someone else to describe her apparently?
RealFknNito@lemmy.world 7 months ago
“I will now be regressing the equality she attempted to create in an attempt to be petty.”
I need to take a psychology class because I just can’t fucking understand people.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Just as Lemmy’s full of right-wing authoritarians preaching communism, it’s also full of sexist assholes preaching feminism. I hope that one day the Fediverse will be mainstream enough that we’ll get enough reasonable people to downvote this trash into oblivion, but we don’t seem to be getting any closer to that.
chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
do you think the responder is serious. do you.
RealFknNito@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Sadly, I’ve seen more absurd comments be said with complete seriousness. I wish it weren’t hard to tell.
herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
This is cool and all but I feel like “Woman of Science” was the obvious workaround to their problem.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
It’s obvious because the woman “factoid” origin is completely made up and untrue.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Given the time she lived in, I guess she didn’t want to make it too obvious that she was a woman
OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Leave it to women, am I right?
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 7 months ago
a womanist
dogsoahC@lemm.ee 7 months ago
As a male scientist, I approve of this constant reaffirmation of my masculinity.
SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
I dunno. “Man of science” has a really nice ring to it. (“Woman of Science” too.)
ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I agree! They both sound very prestigious.
agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 7 months ago
Come to Germany then.
German uses generic masculine grammatical gender and the state of Bavaria just banned the practice of “Gendern”, meaning use both forms (male and female).
So you’d have to be referred to as male pretty much always.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
They didn’t ban the usage of both forms, they banned the usage of new forms, that try to combine masculine and feminine into a gender-neutral form, in administrative texts.
dogsoahC@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Nah, I’ll just stay in Austria. xD
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
So you’re a man of science
Can I feel your bicep?
dogsoahC@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Sadly, no. My chest musculature is so enoumous that it completely envelops me. Kind of impractical in the lab sometimes, but that’s the things you do for more testosterone.
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 7 months ago
This has to be bait or something. The fake fact aside, who would be against gendered professions and simultaneously advocating to gender a profession?
Ajen@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Also, why couldn’t they call her a “woman of science?”
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 7 months ago
also, the term for it was literally in the post, man of science, so male scientist is basically male man of science
Aux@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I hereby declare meself an alpha male man of sciences.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 7 months ago
Not to be confused with the dude who read your Zoobooks and Nat Geo magazines while on his way to leave them in your mailbox.
The male mail man of science.
Frogodendron@beehaw.org 7 months ago
A bilingual person would to a certain extent. I’ve noticed a tendency of English-speaking societies to gradually eliminate the gender from professions, while the languages with grammatical gender, like Russian or German, tend to incorporate previously missing feminine suffixes to the words that previously were male-gendered only.
Though your question (a rhetorical one I guess) regards English only, I suppose, and then yes, the combination is weird.
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 7 months ago
Yeah there is a lot of discussion about it in Germany but generally lawyers, professors, and doctors had to fight for their feminine terminology to exist so any attempt to take it away now would be met with severe backlash.
ringwraithfish@startrek.website 7 months ago
mybookjoy.com/…/word-origins-is-scientist-a-woman…
This person did a good write up of this claim
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
Spoiler alert. The social media “fact” is completely made up.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 7 months ago
Scientress*
smeg@feddit.uk 7 months ago
That would imply that a make scientist would be a scientor, which sounds equally cool!
Klear@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I AM SCIENTOR! I NEED DATA AND EXPERIMENTS!
FMT99@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Scientrix?
Oddbin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I think that’s the ones that try to trick you out of your soul via the power of science.
thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Science-fighter
Assman@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Deebster@programming.dev 7 months ago
Is your point that this source doesn’t back up the Mary Somerville etymology or just an FYI?
Either way, the quote taught me about the word sciolist - a person who pretends to be knowledgeable and well informed so thanks.
blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Example A.
Katrisia@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I thought it was him, William Whewell, in response to an almost rant from Samuel Taylor Coleridge about “natural philosophers” (today’s scientists) not deserving to be called “philosophers”.
I just googled it and found:
Coleridge stood and insisted that men of science in the modern day should not be referred to as philosophers since they were typically digging, observing, mixing or electrifying—that is, they were empirical men of experimentation and not philosophers of ideas.
[…]
There was much grumbling among those in attendance, when Whewell masterfully suggested that in “analogy with artist we form scientist.” Curiously this almost perfect linguistic accommodation of workmanship and inspiration, of the artisanal and the contemplative, of the everyday and the universal –was not readily accepted.
Yeah, that was the story I’d heard.
Another source says:
Coleridge declared that although he was a true philosopher, the term philosopher should not be applied to the association’s members. William Whewell responded by coining the word scientist on the spot. He suggested
by analogy with artist, we may form scientist.
It’s funny because nobody remembers S. T. Coleridge as a philosopher but only as a poet. I’ve read that his philosophical writings were like an eccentric and almost immature version of German idealism. The thing that haunts me is that famous F. Schelling is well read but often misunderstood, so if they both were part of the romantic movement and they were both close to idealism, it could be that they both suffer the same fate.
Anyway, I digressed. That was the story I knew. Basically, a gatekeeping poet separated philosophers and natural philosophers.
It’s even curious because there are rumours about men like Coleridge being “half-mad”, and recently there have been studies on it. It would be ridiculous (just as history tends to be) if an old mad poet had divided these branches of knowledge on a fit of bad moods.
curiousaur@reddthat.com 7 months ago
It’s Man of Science, not male scientist. It’s right there in the post.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 months ago
“Man of science” sounds so much cooler than “scientist”. Such a shame it’s not used anymore
unreasonabro@lemmy.world 7 months ago
this post is impressive in how it misses all the points
perishthethought@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I guess it could have been, “sciencist”. Glad it’s not.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Not even in the movie Oppenheimer they rise much the influence of Lisa Meitner
seven_phone@lemmy.world 7 months ago
She has become the thing she hates.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 months ago
She was an average fighter, but she was a BRILLIANT scientist
Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I don’t really know if I would consider Mayim Bialik a “scientist”. She has a degree in neuroscience, but I don’t think just finishing a stem degree makes you a scientist for the rest of your life.
I have a medical degree, but I doubt any of my colleagues (outside of medical research) would be comfortable with utilizing the title.
Someone who hasn’t ever actually worked in their field of study, and only has two published papers…which to be honest, I didn’t even know was possible to complete a Phd while only having a single publication as a post graduate. The publishing requirements for graduate schools have become kinda insane, but your only major publication being your thesis is also kinda absurd. It wouldn’t surprise me if she received some special treatment due to her celeb status.
Also, someone with a research based degree who also is antivax is concerning. Not to mention the whole selfhelp podcast and the rabid Zionism…
weariedfae@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I don’t give a fuck about Blossom, if I met a dude in a bar who says he has a PhD in neuroscience and 2 published papers it would not think twice about calling him a scientist even if he currently worked flipping burgers with no plans to return.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Well, I just wanted to highlight the difficulties for women to make a name for themselves in science even today. I don’t know if Bialik could have become famous if she had remained a neuroscientist and obviously it has been easier for her to do so as an actress (ironically playing a neuroscientist in The Big Bang Theory), despite several publications.
Science and technology remains even today, unfairly, a domain of men, even though without women we would not even have Bluetooth or WiFi…
oxideseven@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
My wife and I call ourselves scientits :)
CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 7 months ago
As cool as that story is, it’s not correct. Taken from pubs.aip.org/…/Mary-Somerville-s-vision-of-scienc…
“Mary Somerville’s iconic status is often summed up by stating that William Whewell, in his review of her book On the Connexion of the Physical Sciences, hailed her as the first “scientist.” But almost exactly the opposite was the case. Nowhere did Whewell or anyone else in her lifetime ever call Somerville a scientist, nor is it a word, so far as we know, that she ever used herself. By our current understanding of the term, Somerville can certainly be called a scientist, but for her contemporaries she belonged to a higher and more profound category entirely.”