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Gender-specific toilets to be required in non-residential buildings in England

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Mex@feddit.uk⁩ to ⁨unitedkingdom@feddit.uk⁩

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/06/gender-specific-toilets-to-be-required-in-non-residential-buildings-in-england

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  • Hol@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Spacious room with a single toilet and a floor to ceiling solid wood door: 🚨ILLEGAL🚨. But add a sink and anyone can poop to their heart’s content.

    It seems the issue here is actually mixed gender handwashing, which is the real scourge.

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    • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mingling mens and womens hands in the same bank of sinks is obviously going to lead to sinful behaviour.

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  • li10@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Rapists: “Ahhh, nooooo!!! Now I can’t do my raping because of this single change 😫😫😫”

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The UK is not OK

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    • cynar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The Tories are desperately trying to find something to appeal to voters. Based off of the recent council elections, they are looking at being devastated in the next general election.

      Unfortunately, when you corner a wounded animal, they tend to lash out at whatever they can, before you kill them. Unfortunately, they can still drag it out till January 2025.

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      • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I wish they would try something else than trying to ignite culture wars

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  • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Let alone the gender wars, this is stupid because it’s impractical. The only division we need is stalls vs urinals. If you already have stalls, everyone has all the privacy they need. What’s the point of gendered toilets??

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  • CloutAtlas@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait what if the building is a small shop that has a singular room with a toilet and sink in it? The little bookstore near my house only has 1 water closet. Those type of stores will be illegal to build from now on?

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    • Barabas@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That would be a ‘universal’ toilet and thus allowed.

      According to ministers, 81% agreed with the intention for separate single-sex toilet facilities in a consultation on the proposals, while 82% also agreed with the intention to provide “universal” toilets – a self-contained, and a fully enclosed toilet room with a wash hand basin for individual use – where space allows.

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      • Adkml@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        God these people are fucking stupid.

        That’s a gender neutral bathroom.

        It doesn’t mean there’s a stripper pole and a doctor handing out hormones.

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      • llamajester421@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What boggles me is that the latter "universal toilet" is what most conservatives ferociously battled when it is called a "gender neutral bathroom", like disabled bathrooms and residential ones. Face=palm.

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    • Yor@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Anything less would interfere with dignity nia-smug

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      • Assian_Candor@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        honk whose dignity

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  • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We might be literally swimming in shit but at least it comes from gender-specific toilets. Hooray for the Tories.

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  • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Mumsnet strikes again.

    Aaaaas a mother…

    FFS those people.

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  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Gender specific?

    Who in their right mind would be able to create infinite toilets to have a specific toilet for every gender on the spectrum between feminine and masculine?

    Or do they mean sex specific toilets? Which is just awful and non-enforceable.

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    • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or do they mean sex specific toilets? Which is just awful and non-enforceable.

      Oi M8 u got a penis with that?

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  • valkyre09@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m confused. Aren’t disabled toilets gender neutral?

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    • Shou@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Good point. Need more toilets with greater accessibility.

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  • Wahots@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is absolutely bizarre. At least in NA, there’s a decent number of family/unspecified restrooms, which are also gender neutral and usually have a changing station. Some have gendered bathrooms as well. But for stuff like apartments, usually they just do a few unspecified bathrooms as it is easier to do.

    This seems awfully unnecessary and expensive just to spite, what, 1% of the UK population?

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    • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not to spite 1%. It’s to give two sets of 49% safe spaces from the other 49%. Recent changes in attitude haven’t made the previous need for segregation go away.

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      • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Wtf do people do in bathrooms? You go in, find a stall, do your business and then wash your hands. Why does it have to be gendered? If it’s about perverts creeping, what is this doing about same sex perverts?

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      • Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Have people been unsafe in unisex bathrooms?

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      • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Who is being protected from what here?

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Trans women are 49% of the population? Wow that’s crazy, where are they I want to meet them

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  • keepcarrot@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    All residential bathrooms are woke

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    • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I just want an MP to stand up during the debate on this and say something to the effect of: “I have it on good authority that the honourable member from Toryshire has a gender neutral bathroom in his own house! What is he hiding?”

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  • hellfire103@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I can’t decide if I want to die or emigrate.

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    • HowManyNimons@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Help is coming. I have to believe it. It’s been a long long cold mean period in UK politics, and I know that Labour doesn’t look much better.

      But I’ve lived in other countries and seen other endless conservative governments come to an end, kicking and lashing out just like this. And I can tell you honestly how refreshing it is to wake up and know that today, while people are unlikely to make things better any time quickly, nobody is going to make things worse.

      Sending love.

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      • hellfire103@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I really needed to here this. Thank you.

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    • match@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Live. Fight. Flee if you must.

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  • TeddyKila@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    balkanize these isles

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  • Thordros@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Get that big bucket wheel excavator from Germany to dig up the edge of the English Channel and sink the island into the sea.

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ally McBeal was nearly 30 years ago now and we’re still stuck on this.

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    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      When I was 8yo and saw that Ally McBeal episode, I was blown away by the idea of men and women sharing a bathroom. Then my sister looked me in the eye and said, “We share a bathroom.”

      Figured it out that early.

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  • EdanGrey@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I find this funny because the government buildings I’ve been in all had gender specific toilets made universal instead. Apparently they can’t make their minds up

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Seems to be common sense

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes all the right wing cruelty laws are written this way (or presented this way). If one had to explain it to a child it would sound very common sense.

      But, of course, that is not the point of the law at all.

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    • Bremmy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How so?

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  • autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    New restaurants, offices, schools and hospitals in England will be required to have separate male and female toilets, in a move ministers say will combat growing concerns about “privacy and dignity” in gender-neutral facilities.

    The equalities minister, Kemi Badenoch, said the move will help combat the rise of gender-neutral toilet spaces, which she said “deny privacy and dignity to both men and women”.

    She asked people to report public bodies that fail to provide single-sex spaces or have policies not in accordance with the Equality Act.

    Badenoch said the move shows the government’s commitment to “ensuring single-sex spaces are protected for all” after plans to overhaul the NHS constitution by limiting the use of gender-neutral wards.

    “This is following our work last week limiting the use of mixed-sex wards in the NHS and demonstrates how this government is committed to ensuring single-sex spaces are protected for all.”

    The government guidelines for how schools in England deal with transgender and young people require schools to maintain separate toilets and changing facilities for children aged eight years and over, allows staff and students to ignore pronouns preferred by socially transitioning children, and allows for sport and PE activities to be segregated by sex if there are safety concerns.

    The original article contains 644 words, the summary contains 206 words. Saved 68%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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  • rayquetzalcoatl@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Glad there’s literally nothing more important that our dickhead politician class could be working on 👍

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