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Why do people still eat beef when we know it's terrible for Earth?

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨3volver@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Humans can be weird about these facts or simply indifferent to the known effect that raising these animals for meat has on the environment. Additionally, I think the antagonistic message of a few vocal vegans triggered a powerful foolishness in the heads of certain people who are prone to acting hedonistically upon being told not to do something. A combination of apathy, chasing profits, taste for beef, and spite which fuels the industrialized beef production business. Another issue is that most of us simply won’t be around to experience the consequences of the unchecked corporations responsible for this willful harm the meat industry is causing Earth’s climate and surrounding environment. I believe in moderation, eating as little of all the meats as possible (those industries have a big impact on the environment). As an American, I see a weird pride that certain people have about eating as much meat as possible; loudly shunning and making fun of those who have either a mostly plant-based, vegetarian, or vegan diet. It’s such a selfish outlook that happens in societies that focus on the individual over the many.

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    • vividspecter@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Another issue is that most of us simply won’t be around to experience the consequences

      I think most people middle-aged or younger will experience the consequences (in fact, we already are with the increased frequency of severe weather events) it’s just that those consequences will get worse over time.

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      • LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The youngest of people certainly will be I could have worded this thought better, but I didn’t. Severe weather is certainly a consequence as well as increased extremes in temperature which are currently happening. Everyone already feels the impact of irresponsible environmental decisions made by the oil industry and industrial agriculture/animal husbandry. Millennials, Gen X and Gen Z will be around to experience the worsening of conditions on Earth. I do genuinely believe that people don’t consider the fact that they aren’t going to experience the climate outcomes based on irresponsible decisions. However, based on the current growing political instability of the USA; I wonder if people are beginning to feel a desire to indulge as they don’t know if they’ll come out unscathed from the blowup which is bound to happen at some point. A bad outlook to have in a way as that will only magnify future issues, however, humans aren’t always rational! 🤪

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  • Asclepiaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Tastes gud

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  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    1 the amount of beef I eat is not a major contributer to the problem. No matter how hard I try. The actual major contributors what to distract people by telling them that they can make the difference. They can’t. 2 I don’t like plants… 3 the way the grow plants for food is also terrible for earth

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    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The major contributors only sell what people buy. They won’t stop so long as there’s money to be made. And most plants grown for food go to feed animals.

      You don’t like plants because you’re a big baby.

      So yeah, your arguments suck.

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      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Lol

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  • Chocrates@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You really triggered some folks 🤣

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    • 3volver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Good, discussion has gotten stale as fuck on the internet. I don’t want to see Lemmy become some censored smooth brained shit pool like Reddit.

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  • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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    • Snowpix@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s almost like being extremely antagonistic and smug doesn’t convince people of your arguments and just puts them off…

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      • Specal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It also doesn’t work if you’re not “antagonistic and smug”. People don’t like to change, so they aren’t going to change their eating habits.

        It has nothing to do with how people talk to you and everything to do with you just liking meat.

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  • njordomir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Beef is one of the least-woke proteins. /s

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    • Today@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We only eat the fascist cows. And the homophobic chickens at Chick-fil-A.

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    • ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What if rolling coal were a sandwich?

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  • nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because they’re lazy and comfortable and stupid and they don’t give a shit about anything.

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  • Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You haven’t made vegan food free yet. Make it free, people will naturally eat more of it. Solve hunger at the same time.

    You do care about reducing beef consumption right? Well start here.

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  • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Begging the question

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  • Regalia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have a eating disorder so most vegetables make me retch, so I kind of don’t have a choice.

    Also companies do way more emissions than I ever will, yet I’m asked to stop.

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    • Drusas@kbin.run ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have food sensitivities which make it so that I can't eat most leafy greens, most legumes, mushrooms, large amounts of carbs....

      I'd be on the toilet 24 hours a day if I went vegan.

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  • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Meat yummy

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  • then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In my country at least beef consumption peaked around 2012 (theguardian.com/…/uk-meat-consumption-lowest-leve…)

    I think post WW2 there was a drive towards the idea that we’d never need to go without. This combined with lifestyle changes (more people working longer hours) gave birth to the rise of fast convince foods and the mass growth of places like McDonalds and Burger King.

    Why don’t people just stop? Ideas within society have a lot of momentum, they take a lot of energy to get started and a lot to turn or stop again.

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  • canadaduane@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I appreciate your question, but I think “we know” is problematic:

    • who is “we”?
    • how do we “know”?
    • can some people know one thing while others know the opposite?

    I’m not trolling, either, just asking questions from a philosophical point of view. I’ve changed my mind about several things I took very seriously and thought I was 100% right about. Could others be dealing with similar changing-mind-through-time processes? Could you?

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    • 3volver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “We” are informed individuals who care about proven scientific facts.

      “Know” is the fact that methane is a strong greenhouse gas.

      No, when it comes to something factually proven time and time again. Anyone can “know” anything but that doesn’t mean they’re correct.

      I’ve gone through many mind changing events in my life time, so has everyone else.

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      • canadaduane@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “We know better than you” has never been an effective way to change other peoples’ minds, in my experience.

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  • Akareth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because:

    • Ruminants like cows repair our depleating topsoil via regenerative farming (our current approach of using petroleum-based fertilisers is not sustainable)
    • A single cow’s life can feed a human for 1 to 2 years, compared to the many incidentally killed animals (insects, rodents, frogs, birds, etc.) during the growing and harvesting of crops, plus the destruction of entire ecosystems to create the mono-crop farms in the first place
    • Humans need to eat lots of fat to be physically and mentally healthy, and beef provides lots of fat (the low-fat high-carbohydrate diets recommended by various agencies — starting with the US’s department of agriculture in the late '70s via the food pyramid — are making us sick, with once-rare diseases such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes, depression, and dementia now commonplace)
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    • YaBoyMax@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is ignoring the fact that raising a cow for consumption requires ~10 times the amount of crops per calorie compared to just eating the crops directly. Also, I don’t think I’ve heard a single health expert recommended eating more beef - the universal understanding is that red meat consumption is generally a net negative in terms of overall health.

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      • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        requires ~10 times the amount of crops per calorie compared to just eating the crops directly

        Kind of, kind of not. If fed corn, yes. If pasture raised, no. Humans can’t eat grass. Cows convert grass into food.

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  • psion1369@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Beef makes money. Just like cars, oil makes money.

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  • p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because we are carnivores and that’s how nature works?

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    • chetradley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The word you’re looking for is omnivores

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      • p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Alrighty!

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    • decivex@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not a vegetarian by any stretch but even I know there’s nothing natural about how the bio industry works.

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  • kandoh@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Big money involved

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  • coolguy@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It's not?

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  • FunnyUsername@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Cigarette smokers must really baffle you too

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    • 3volver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, they don’t. I used to smoke, nicotine is a fucking bitch of a drug, somehow I managed to quit using vaping and nicotine gum over 2 years. Beef is not an addictive chemical. You must never have experienced nicotine drug, what a naive ass comment to make.

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      • FunnyUsername@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I smoked for 7 years Get over yourself lmfao

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s nutritious. Instead of carefully observing some diet you can eat some beef and buckwheat or cabbage or beans, and you’re good.

    That said, I eat meat so rarely that my relatives worry, mainly because it takes some time to cook if you boil it, and I’m lazy and unorganized, and frying it has the potential of, eh, leaving the kitchen for 5 minutes which turn out to be half an hour and returning for the smell.

    Other than that people can’t care about every problem at once.

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  • Leviathan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Dumb fucks who fall for propaganda on every platform.

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    • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m a native whose culture have hunted and eaten meat for millennia, what propaganda were my ancient ancestors being shown?

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      • Leviathan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What does what your ancestors did have to do with what we now know about modern factory farming? The question was about still eating beef despite what we know today, what does that have to do with your ancestors? Is your comment not the very definition of a strawman?

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  • knightly@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because my partners are picky eaters and I literally cannot get them to even try vegetarian meals. If it doesn’t have beef, pork, or chicken then they won’t touch it. >_<

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  • Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Its a cultural thing for my wife and her family. Pretty much every meal she learned to cook when she was a beef meal.

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