Comment on Every base is base 10

Wanderer@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

• ted@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  42* years. Centuries are now 84 years. We are living in the 19th century! I rate this idea 12/12.

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  • CareHare@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    5/7 movie

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    • Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      shut the f*k up rob

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I rate it A/10, it’s a really efficient numbering system but I personally will have a really hard time adjusting

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• lowleveldata@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  50 years? I bet we couldn’t even agree on how to write “11” & “12” on such short notice. (See: date format, encoding, etc)

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  • exocrinous@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Well we write 12 like this: 10

    It’s way y

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    • lowleveldata@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      oops I mean “10” & “11”

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  • problematicPanther@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    we could just go with the hexidecimal way and go with A,B,C for 10,11 and 12

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    • chellomere@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      No, 12 in base 12 is 10, not C. But yes, 10 can be A and 11 can be B

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      • drcobaltjedi@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Dude’s out here trying to get us to use base 13.

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      • problematicPanther@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        ah right, thanks

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    • MBM@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      That’s pretty confusing in algebra, maybe normal sentences too

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    • a_postmodern_hat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Over my dead body.

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  • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    The current standard seems to be an upside down 2 and 3

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    • lowleveldata@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      An upsidedown 3 is just a 3…?

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      • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Rotated, not flipped.

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• Khrux@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Some people argue that it would be harder to count on your fingers but we could just surgically give everyone more?

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  • Wanderer@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    There are 12 sections on your fingers (excluding your thumb) you then use your thumb to count to 12 on one hand.

    Two hands can allow you to count to 24. Which is way higher than 10. Base 12 is better!

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    • BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Binary’s the way. 1023 with 10 fingers

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      • techt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I like the idea of some numbers being popular hand gestures.

        4 - Fuck you 17 - Shaka (hang loose) 18 - Metal horns 19 - “I love you” 132 - Double fuck you

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    • venoft@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      With 2 hands you can count to 144.

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      • lenuup@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        156. 12*12 on one hand + 12 on the other one

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    • Khrux@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Bold of you to assume I’d ever remember this counting technique. Hell I’m shocked I remember counting my fingers for base 10…

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    • Skua@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Use the other hand to count twelves! Each time you fill up one hand, add one to the other. That way you can get all the way to 156, which is probably more than you'd ever want to count one by one anyway

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    • Kuragi2@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      To be fair, you should be comparing 2 hands in base 12 to 2 hands in base 10, I. E. 20:24. Still a real difference, but not the 10:24 difference you pointed out.

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Binary is very good for counting with your fingers. With both hands you can count to 1023. One hand is 31, which is still usually more than you typically need to count.

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    • Daft_ish@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I made it to 27 on my first attempt, so def messed up somewhere. Also, my fingers don’t want to work that way.

      Doable.

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I agree it can feel weird, but first this isn’t how we are used to doing it so it hard to compare, and also normally we want our fingers in very precise positions (probably because it’s easier to show other people). When doing binary I feel it’s easier to ignore precise positions. I just use the half of my finger after the middle knuckle and let my fingers move as they please. We only need to track up or down, so it doesn’t need to be precise.

        Practice helps. I’m not good at it, but I can manage it fine at this point. For sure it’d doable, but I rarely have to count, and when I do I can generally do it in my head fine. I could see myself using it maybe if tracking a large number over a long time, but I don’t see that case ever coming up organically.

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      • chellomere@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Also 4 might insult people, and some conservatives may take issues with 18.

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  • rockerface@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    When was the last time you’ve actually needed to count something on your fingers?

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    • GiveOver@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      ✌🏻 days ago

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    • Skua@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I find it useful if I'm counting only specific instances of something that meet some criteria. That way my brain can focus on picking out the right things and not have to worry about keeping the current count in mind. I use the method with your thumb on each segment of your fingers though, so you can get up to twelve with one hand and 144 with both

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Billions of years ago, our collective great-great-great-[several million more]-grandparent evolved a fin with a five bone structure. That idiot didn’t know anything about common denominators, and now we’re stuck with this numeric system that can’t divide things into thirds without causing issues.

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    • Danquebec@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Vertebrates appeared less than a billion years ago.

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• NafiTheBear@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  This would be great. I was researching why we don’t have 10 based clocks and then I saw a video about why a 12 and 60 based system is actually much more convenient and now I would love a ‘dozen based metric system’

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• Daft_ish@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  50 years? We can’t even switch to metric.

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  • Wanderer@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Every civilised country on earth uses metric.

    Only the really shitty ones use imperial. Imperial is just stupid (unless you count in base 12 ironically)

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• FreeFacts@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Why base 12 though? Base 16 is even better. And base 60 is even better than that!

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Common denominators. You can divide base 12 into half, thirds, fourths, and sixths and still use integers. I find thirds to be particularly useful, so base 16 is out. Base 60 can do it, but that’s getting unweildly.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      There are no common denominators in base 12 that you can’t use in base 84, and the latter also has 7 as a common denominator.

      I, for one, vote for changing our base to 84.

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    • DaneGerous@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Can’t do base 12 on fingers. I prefer base 8.

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      • reiseno_@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        You can do base 12 on fingers! You count each of the 3 segments on each finger and ignore the thumb (you can use it to keep your place), so you can count up to 12 on just one hand! :)

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      • Neato@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        8 fingered Johnny…

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      • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Base 6. One hand and a arm. Let’s me get all the way to 41.

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      • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Just add left arm, right arm to it or, if you’re a guy nose and dick.

        Certainly, especially the male version, it would make the visual act of counting far more funny to watch.

        I think I’m starting to warm up to the whole base 12 idea…

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  • RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Base 69?

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    • loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Nice

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• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  nah we should use binary, anything else is cringe.

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• problematicPanther@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  so, 60 years in base 10

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• JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Or better yet, base 6?

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• Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  That’s Acadian, right? It was originally based on the number of easy to count bones in your fingers (12-24)

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