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MutantTailThing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Outlawing cannabis products was essentially an exercise in deliberate systemic racism in the US. (Nixon).

  Unsure about the rest of the world.

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  • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    IIRC the US heavily pressured other countries with tariffs to also ban it

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      good old imperialism. plus they are involved profit off of the illegal drug trade.

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  • miked@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It goes farther back than that. DuPont and Hurst had a hand in making cannabis look bad.

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    • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      And hemp makes for a garbage printing medium anyway

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  • embed_me@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    India here, colonial penal code outlawed it but we’re too prudish to change it after independence

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    • Landless2029@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They outlawed it because hemp was a competitor or cotton I thought

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  • dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I thought it was about paper prices?

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    • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yep, William Randolph Hearst fucked everything over for his textile businesses long before Nixon, but it is true that racism played a big factor, namely beginning to refer to it as marijuana instead of cannabis and linking that to those pesky Latinos

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• Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Meanwhile alcohol, one of the most harmful substances, is being consumed like water 😐

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  • ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Delicious, masterfully distilled, barrel aged, water of life 👉😉👉🥃

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  • tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Ew, who drinks water?

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    • WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s the dudes with the bud light cans.

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• HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The only issue I have with weed, and most other drugs, is that you can’t easily test for them in a person’s system, meaning that you can’t know if someone’s driving under the influence. This wouldn’t be as much of a problem if not for the fact that we have have such a car centric society. I don’t like people endangering other people just for a buzz.

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  • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Imagine being so car brained that you base personal freedom around it

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    • abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I don’t think this is “car brained”. They’re not saying anything around public transit, just that we need to have a test for DWI and weed. People shouldn’t be jailed for 30 years regardless of the presence of the test or not, but we do still need some other test. Otherwise I guarantee that “don’t drive while baked” will be the next infomercial you see in a few years.

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      • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Missing the point a bit, we shouldn’t base legalization around if people are going to drive their cars on a substance.

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    • HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I honestly despise you for calling me “car brained”. That insult hurt me more than any other I’ve received. I want to protect pedestrians and cyclists from people driving cars under the influence. I want to limit driving people’s freedom to make life better for everyone. Fuck you.

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      • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That’s honestly a very odd reaction, for what it’s worth I meant it lightheartedly.

        Of course I think pedestrians and cyclists also deserve safety.

        I would like to point out however that a majority of incidents are drunk drivers who do not already have a device like that in their car, so it’s a tad bit absurd to indicate your hard line for legalization is that when it would only apply after the fact anyway.

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  • GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The best way to eliminate this risk is public transit.

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    • HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes. I want to ban cars too.

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  • CoolCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You can easily test if they’re in someone’s system with a saliva test, so your argument doesn’t make any sense.

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    • HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Can you hook a saliva test to a car’s ignition system to only allow sober people to start the car?

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      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Now lick the knob

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      • CoolCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No, but not every car has a breathalyzer. Only repeat offenders get one of those. So the point still stands imo. Maybe someday the saliva test can be hooked up to the ignition.

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  • Diurnambule@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I am 100% on bike I see no argument on there. Just don’t smoke 3 day before you have to drive.

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  • Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    They have mouth swabs they use now that can tell for smoking.

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    • HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Those can’t be used on the road and can’t be integrated into a car’s startup system.

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      • Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        They can be used when pulled over just like a breathylyzer (although this is the law in my state and I’m in USA all places may not have the same rules) but I do see what you are saying about hooking it up to the car like the breath machines.

        Man, someone could potentially make a lot of money to be the first ones to roll that out.

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  • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Eh, you can still do a blood test in conjunction with a field sobriety test. Its not as cut and dry as something like alcohol, but to be honest it really shouldn’t be anyways considering how much more dangerous driving while drunk is.

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  • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Oh they don’t really let it stop them over here, they just use whatever shitty system they have available and let you deal with the false positives and the fact it detects it for much longer than you are intoxicated.

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  • MML@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If you can’t tell what problems is it causing? What about the elderly, just because they’re not actively impairing themselves further it makes it alright that they are more impaired than a normal driver?

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    • HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Elderly people shouldn’t be allowed to drive.

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It makes sense if you recognize it as an excuse to harass black and Latino people

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  • EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    •And hippies •And folks against the war •And a way to fill for-profit prisons •And a way to control where/how people live •And a way to make cotton plantations make more •And a way to prohibit something since alcohol bans didn’t work out

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• Kanda@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I did it all day every day for 12 years, then quit and went back to work like nothing happened. Try that with any other drug

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  • Numenor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You were off work smoking weed for 12 years?

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    • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If you had that chance, are you saying you wouldn’t?

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    • Kanda@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sort of. Racked up a bunch of student debt pretending to read. Could have been working all those years

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  • MutantTailThing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I can attest to this, I too smoked all day every day and one day I was just too lazy to go buy more weed and I haven’t smoked since. That was 15 years ago.

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• musubibreakfast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s not really because of weed itself, a lot of countries in East Asia have very strict drug laws. Historically it ties into the boxer rebellion and the way the West used opium to control China.

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• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yuuup. Had the opportunity to move to Singapore about a decade ago… NOPE. Great place to visit. Amazing people and food. No weed. Don’t even think about it.

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• 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Gotta keep feeding the slave force.

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