Submitted 11 months ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to workreform@lemmy.world
https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-working-to-live-rather-than-living-to-work-2024-1
A future-of-work expert said Gen Zers didn't have the "promise of stability" at work, so they're putting their personal lives and well-being first.
I want to put the effort I give earning money to be put towards bettering my life. All my lemons are being juiced for someone else’s lemonade.
“Many of us built, whether it’s bought homes or whatever, based on this promise of stability,” Jesuthasan said. “There was this expectation that the tail was bigger. And we took on liabilities and obligations early on because of that tail. I think this generation has seen that tail dissipate.”
In other words, when millennials did what their parents did and assumed if they worked hard they’d get to live a decent life. Then they got fucked by companies whose priorities became getting as much out of their employees as possible while investing in those employees as little as possible.
As a millennial, I hated the idea of debt. As a result, I’ve had no debt beyond college loans despite being able to afford a lower middle class lifestyle. The education was bullshit and the loans were obscene but I got a piece of paper that helped me keep my job. After working in the public sector for 20+ years I actually had my loans forgiven… and now rent is going through the roof to compensate. Still, I might actually own a home before I’m 50, assuming current and future landlords don’t decide to take me for all I’m worth.
When I finally own a home, I’m sure it’ll get washed away by the thirteenth “century flood” that year or some other bullshit thanks to climate change. So fucking glad I decided not to have kids. Fuck this world.
That sound like a horrible Kafkaesque nightmare. I fear my country is heading in the same direction. I’m saddened that it got so bad in the US, and that the “obvious steps in the right direction” were simply voted against. I’m reminded of the Community episode where they explore the alternative realities. Before Bernie lost to Hillary I told a friend “Well… if Bernie loses, it’s all going to shit”. I’m sad to have been right, although it started that way some time ago with Reagan gutting the middle class.
We either figure out how to redistribute wealth in the society in the next 30 years, or… well, “going to shit” will be the least of our problems.
Meanwhile, celebrities including Whoopi Goldberg have dismissed their economic struggles. She said they couldn’t afford to buy a house because they’re lazy and “only want to work four hours” a day.
Is every single host of The View a giant piece of shit, or what? We saw this exact same bullshit just the other day from one of the other ones. They should change the name to The Karen.
The problem, or at least one of them, is that those words resonate so well with her viewers. I am not excusing her, but if she did not say them then someone else would - so yeah it’s more the game than the playa.
People in Gen-Z just don’t work hard as often. Ofc there are reasons: why should they, when their work isn’t valued/rewarded properly? So then to the self-ish/-centered crowd, all they see is that they get served less well by their Gen-Z slaves workers than the Millennials who put in more of an effort, but rather than take ownership of that and like go somewhere else that pays their workers better, they instead blame the victim. Like, “I paid a whole dollar for this burger - why aren’t you smiling at me harder as you walk out in the rain to hand-deliver it to me?”
Like if you have to live with your parents or roommates anyway, and have little to no hope of ever owning your own home, or possibly even car, and also can’t afford health insurance, to get married, and after over-turning of Roe v. Wade to have sex (even if you were married), etc. then why should you work more than the bare minimum to survive?
If you kick a dog often enough, it stops being happy to see you.:-( Boomers solution: it must need to be kicked harder, until it complies and wags its tail whenever you come home. I am sorry if it breaks your heart to read that sentence… but fwiw, at least it proves you have one:-).
People in Gen-Z just don’t work hard as often.
Is that really true though? I’m Gen-X and they said the same thing about us, and then the Millennials, and now the current gen. I think quit quitting is largely a myth and plenty of GenZ are working their asses off. They’re not getting the same rewards. But I can also understand if some them do choose to opt out. But the fact that they can’t afford to buy homes is not proof that they are lazy.
They all belong to a specific economic class.
Money rots your brain.
I’m curious about how different Gen Z is from Millennials here, because everyone in my age range seems to share this sentiment with them?
It’s a gradient.
Promise of what? I think the major change with millennials and gen z is that we see through the dogmatism that is corporate culture. Even if the promise was that of the “American dream” 50 years ago it’s quite clearly not worth it to sacrifice your youth and 1/3 of your life (another third being sleep) to afford to sit around in a house and squeeze in stagnant social obligations for the rest of your life. Life is what you make of it, and familial loyalty to a company that doesn’t care about me just doesn’t cut it.
Some of us gen x saw this in high school but were surrounded by angry boomers who treated us like we were idiots.
Then don’t work at a corporation. There are plenty of startups / small businesses out there who are in dire need of talented people.
The single most toxic place to work is a startup. The people who make it there tend to be entitled narcissists.
Start ups are still corps bud.
You get what you pay for, pay your employees shit and get shit. Completely remove all rewards for hard work and no ones going to be incentivized to do more than the bare minnimum.
Not gen z, but God bless 'em. I came to the same conclusion after the first round of layoffs at my first job. They laid off the experts because they had higher salaries and kept the lower paid, less skilled workers. It was completely absurd. Then it happened again, and again. Why would I ever expect my work to treat me with any loyalty or concern when no employer has even shown me or mine any?
The internet is the reason they get to grow up with tons of details about how and why these promises are bullshit and vapor.
I’m so fucking tired reading articles about boomers this, millenials that, zoomies this.
i remember reading similar headlines about millenials… this bullshit is always targeted at young adults, and its always the same superficial “analysis”
Corporate America is a shit lifestyle and single digit iq is enough to realize that.
I mean I’m GenX, and I’ve been fired from three different jobs for reasons beyond my control.
The concept of working for one company for your whole career, getting promoted to a high paying position, retiring with a healthy pension simply no longer exists anymore. You can work hard and do everything right, even be in a division that’s making money and you still might lose your job simply because laying off employees looks good to the shareholders.
But it’s all the fault of the young people! You just need to work harder… on your LinkedIn profile because what you do for the company you’re at right now doesn’t matter, it’s what it looks like you do that matters more now.
a future-of-work expert
Saw the writing on the wall and just invented a new job.
I wish I had that kind of foresight
“Robots are taking our jerbs”
“Gen Z is catching on. Vilify them!”
Also, nobody wants to hire anymore.
If employers get to say it when they can’t fill poverty wage positions, the rest of us get to say it when employers fail to offer 7 figure salaries.
My work pays me to work from 9 to 5, which uses the best part of my day. I’m not giving anything more than that.
I’d even argue that’s too fucking much
And I would agree! 4h top is all I need to do my daily job.
How does one become a “future-of-work expert?” If I decided to become one, what training would I need?
Welcome to South Europe. We know work is what pays the bills, only that. Live is everything else.
Hi Gen Z here I got diagnosed with Complex PTSD and Psychosis after a very awful and abusive work environment that’s ended in the Ministry of Labour thinking of fining the employer and me suing them for reprising against me for calling the ministry to get the abuse to stop. It has nothing to do with money it has everything to do with being treated with respect and not getting abused. And these employers wonder why no one wants to work for them if they’ll just come out with a mental health, psychiatric or psychological disorder
You’re not even number two.
Why the hell shouldn't they?
Every generation does this. Gen Z can barely afford to.
They don’t really think middle aged man are going into work every day busting their plums, just so some cunt above them can buy a nicer car do they?
Bare minimum, every day, don’t get sacked. Winner.
Seems pretty selfish to me
/s
Don’t you think about the poor dividends?
living over working
Yes, we all want that. But…
Are they eating air? Living with their parents? Accumulating debt?
What are their plans for the next 50 years, because living will get a hell of a lot harder than it is now.
We’ve all been forced to put work over life, just to survive long enough to work past retirement age.
we are the dividends
tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It reeks of those headlines saying that millenials/gen zs are “losing interest in buying cars and houses”.
Motherfucker, interest has nothing to do with it. We can’t afford it!
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well interest does come into it. Y’all can’t afford the interest payments on the loans you’d need. Can’t even find a decently priced used car.
tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oooh, cool word play! I like it.
Also, I find it funny* that we somehow can afford rent but are not qualified to pay a mortgage with monthly payments that costs the same.
*enraging