Sophie's choice 70s edition
Submitted 11 months ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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yesman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s such a weird situation because I do agree with the criticism of the age of consent being different for gay acts vs straight ones, but also 15’s a bit young there and they think it’s too high. Yikes.
mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
Bruh, french guys?
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 months ago
If only the libertarians knew their dreamland already existed
sbv@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
What about French philosophers band Princess?
Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A lot of them were pedophiles and used their positions as published academics to argue the “philosophy” of “child love”. Pitbulls also have a bad wrap around kids.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 months ago
Keep in mind that that France produces a lot of philosophy in general, and there’s plenty of grassroot and intellectual pushback to the ideas.
You could also just as easily, for example, make this joke about the founders of American “libertarianism,” arguably a kind of philosopher.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Pitbulls also have a bad wrap around kids.
You mean like this, but with children nearby? Image
WoahWoah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The updated version would be a trans storytime reader and a 9mm.
Dkarma@lemmy.world 11 months ago
C’mon that’s not fair. Conservatives would always rather have their kids dead than literate. It’s supposed to be a hard choice for them.
How about. Wear a rainbow Speedo or drink bud light.
Now there’s a right wing conundrum.
Rakonat@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What makes you think they aren’t wearing the speedo already? It has to be something others will publicly see and shame them for.
WoahWoah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You make a compelling argument.
RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I would trust the pitbull. Besides, they’re not as bad as people make them out to be.
Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Now you’ve triggered Lemmy’s hate of pitbulls. Be prepared for “they should all be put down” and “they’re bred to be vicious, you can’t undo that” comment barrage.
I wish you luck.
RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thank you. And honestly, anyone who thinks that doesn’t deserve a very special picture.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
The pitbull, obviously.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You misspelled Ultra late term abortion machine
adhdplantdev@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You misspelled humans
Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That kid’s getting fucked up either way.
CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 11 months ago
It depends on who the princess’s owner is. Fucking retards.
Saltblue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don’t kid yourself a lot of people outside the internet doesn’t have mucho love for the kidprocessor 3000 nany edition.
CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 11 months ago
What?
axefaire@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The internet loves to hate on pitbulls
CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 11 months ago
It’s a combination of lack of education on the subject while being confident in what they do know. That’s pretty much every wrong opinion though.
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don´t get me wrong, it’s humans in the first place who make dogs dangerous but the bad name of certain breeds also has to do with the fact that they have been bred to max out biting power and a tendency to not let go when biting.
CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 11 months ago
You have to be positive while wading through shit if you don’t want to drown. I understand everything you said, but your first sentence is all I’m trying to get across. It’s shitty fucking people, not dogs.
MasterInu@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Pitbull owner: He IS a philosopher and a big ol sweetie
Pitbull is chewing on a person’s arm.
Emerald@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I would definitely choose a french philosopher. I’m sure there are many french philosophers who would make good babysitters
crackajack@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Should we tell him?
Novman@feddit.it 11 months ago
French philosopher are the founders of most of modern liberal movement in USA… And woke culture… So…
ArcticAmphibian@lemmus.org 11 months ago
French philosophy is also responsible for our country’s system of government. Montisquieu argued for separation of powers, natural (inalienable) rights and the right to revolution comes from Locke, the social contract with individual liberties comes from Rousseau. Our constitution is a bunch of French philosophy shoved together into a very (for the time) unique Enlightenment-based government.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 11 months ago
true
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Rene Descarte was a drunken fart “I drink therefore I am”
duviobaz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Idgf if you call me a pedophile but they’re right with their point that the AOC is too high. Having a multiple-stage system like many advanced countries do, like Germany, where it begins with 14, loosens up with 16 and fully at 18 is good. That’s because it acknowledges the development of humans. Development is a process. Humans in reality are not a simplistic lifeform from a philosophical thought experiment, thinking that it should be illegal before one turns 18 and immediately legal a second thereafter is just nonsensical to me. It doesn’t cut off like that, there’s no such hard barrier or edge where it suddenly turns from morally bad to not morally bad.
Katrisia@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I think that if the age of consent is gradual, the age difference allowed should too.
First scenario, two 15 year olds decide to start their sexual life together. They’re fully informed. Nobody is taking advantage. It’s very different to a second scenario where a 17 year old is dating a 36 year old.
It’s funny because the problem is usually described with terms these specific French philosophers used: power dynamics. It is too unbalanced. The adult has way more power than the teenager and that’s not healthy, it can even be dangerous.
I would argue that we should be careful with age differences until our early-mid twenties, even if the law gives us a free pass from our 18th birthday. But, anyway, yeah, in the second scenario, the teenager is older than the first ones, so we’d assume that if the first ones were okay, the second too, but the age difference matters IMHO.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 months ago
At least the dog will just rip their body to shreds and not their soul.
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The pit bull groups of dogs, as breeds, are not the nanny-dogs that people claim they were. They are mastiffs; they were intended to guard, and were used for hunting and war. You can train the shit out of them, and they can still revert to breed characteristics.
A study in the US concluded that greater than 60% of all fatal dog attacks in the US were from pit bulls or Rottweilers, but those two groups don’t make up nearly 60% of all dogs in the US. These simply aren’t breeds that should be left alone with children.
Skkorm@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Assholes will get big dogs, abuse ignore and isolate them, then act surprised when they act unpredictably.
Breed specific legislation isn’t the answer. The answer is for mandatory training courses predating dog ownership. All dog ownership too. Little dogs can be assholes too.
Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I knew someone who had a badly behaved dog, it attacked their partner so they put it down.
A few weeks later “I’m getting another one and I’m going to train it myself” Meaning they just won’t train it, lost their shit when someone called them out as a dog killer. People don’t deserve animals, people suck.
ExLisper@linux.community 11 months ago
A minute of silence for all the people killed by asshole chihuahuas…
Neon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
how can you get killed by a chihuahua? it nibbles away your toe and you get an infection?!
MossyFeathers@pawb.social 11 months ago
Yeah, for real. Pitbulls are the common target because they’re the “vicious dog”. It’s a self-fullfilling prophecy. Talk about how pitbulls are vicious man-killers, people who want vicious man-killers buy them and train them to be vicious man-killers, pitbulls become vicious man-killers. Meanwhile, the people who want a family dog don’t get pitbulls because, well, they’re “vicious man-killers”. The result is that statistics get skewed in favor of the “vicious man-killer” status, leading to people seeing the breed as nothing more than vicious man-killers.
bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That combined with the pseudoscience that was spewed by Merritt Clifton, that everyone still quotes today, and you’ve got yourself some statistical issues.
In case people don’t know who Merritt is
FriedCheese@lemmy.world 11 months ago
People who get pit bulls as “family dogs” have the same issue.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/…/8219201001/
winknews.com/…/north-port-6-year-old-dies-dog-bit…
0ops@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I never thought about that
Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Behavior is influenced by genetics as well as environment. Certain individual animals are more genetically predisposed towards violence than others. Certain breeds of particular species tend to have more of these individuals than others. So, it is possible to have a breed that is violent in that: if you take a random sample of that breed where the individuals are subjected to an identical rearing process more of those individuals will be more violent than average than the average breed has individuals who are more violent than average. (I realize that sentence is probably difficult to digest, but I’m not going to spend 20 more minutes working on this).
Given the data that we have on pit bulls, I think they’re a violent breed. Not all pit bulls are violent, but a pit bull is more likely to be violent than a golden retriever when the two are raised in the same environment.
CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 11 months ago
But you can train a dog to not act on their instinctual prey drive. So why are pitbulls the problem instead of shitty dog owners?
CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Using statistics without context is not right. Especially when talking about people or other living things that have unique personalities and life experiences.
Clbull@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I agree from both an animal welfare and public safety perspective that we need far stricter laws and regulations on dog ownership in general. But also I also think that some breeds are inherently more dangerous than others. For the American Bully XL in particular, we are talking a new pitbull-adjacent breed which has been bred for both aggression and maximum muscle mass, both to skirt past existing legislation that bans American Pit Bulls, but also because both traits are linked to illegal dog fighting.
We’re also deluding ourselves when we claim that a dog bred to resemble the canine equivalent of Brock Lesnar is a nanny dog and wouldn’t harm a fly, when in actuality losing control of a 145 lb jacked beast has even led to grown adults being mauled to death.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 months ago
And a license to have a dog and a rebate for a year or more of medical care for them, for getting them spayed/neutered
BoneALisa@lemm.ee 11 months ago
When big dog acts out: “ahh that breed is aggressive! 😡”
Whem abused purse dogs act out (more frequently and more viciously): “oh isnt he just adorable 🥺”