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'None of these people have ever made a game,' BioWare co-founder Greg Zeschuk says of game industry executives: 'They just don't know how it works'

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Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/none-of-these-people-have-ever-made-a-game-bioware-co-founder-greg-zeschuk-says-of-game-industry-executives-they-just-dont-know-how-it-works/

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  • Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨38⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    This industry has taken a wrong turn and is now at an impasse.

    We need to step back to when small teams of developers made lightweight games. It’s not like anybody’s got the RAM or GPU compute to run some of these newer titles anyway.

    Developers, if you’re serious about making a game, take your ideas, leave the company you work for (before they let you go), and make it alone or with friends and close colleagues.

    Let’s right this wrong. Let’s make affordable games that run on affordable hardware again.

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  • CorneliusTalmadge@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Welcome to every industry under capitalism. The business/finance majors have it under control. They have no idea what it takes to make anything or what even makes the products/services valuable to others but they are positive it can be done cheaper.

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    • nullspace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You take a money bag, bury it, then three money bags sprout out of the ground. It’s simple economics.

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    • dudeface@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Take2 seems to get it at the highest level, it is rare

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  • kalman@dboft.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Zeschuk nails it, and it lines up with something Nate Hagens talked about on The Great Simplification: a company doesn’t need a single villain at the top to behave like a psychopath, it just needs to be structured so that extraction beats CRAFT every time. That’s what “none of these people have ever made a game” feels like to me. BioWare was built on people who loved the work and took the time it needed; the PIF/private-equity model wants annual sports titles and predictable margins. Hagens’ talks about traits out-competing values, so the people with the values (Zeschuk) walk away from the crucible and the people with the extraction reflex keep hammering forward. We ALL have this SAME problem people.. wtf are we going to do about it is the question.

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    • Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, the final destination of the extraction economy is eating itself, so it’ll and one way or another.

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      • kalman@dboft.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        100% agree. Protect yourself and you loved ones. Build community and figure it out together.

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    • Crankenstein@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yup. Ain’t no war but class war, babay.

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    • spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Put bounties on MBAs and execs.

      … /s … kinda

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m close to a doctor, and they were telling me how their clinic demanded a schedule that leaves only 15 minutes per patient, and how it’s causing huge burnout. They asked how it got that way, so I explained the great simplification, how missed diagnoses are not a metric that can be measured, let alone put onto a spreadsheet

      The only real answer I can come to is that we can’t let organizations survive so long they become entrenched, or become too big for a single person to know on a human level. Also, we need to seriously regulate consulting companies, they are a tool to diffuse responsibility away so no one has to take it

      But in the meantime? It’s not easy but it’s simple - we need to fight against the tightening ratchet. We need to be the person who pushes back, who continues this endless struggle until the next generation takes over.

      The doctor can go to the CEO and ask for a slight reduction in workload so they can spend a bit longer with a few patients a day at their discretion. It’s not a solution, but it pushes against the straps squeezing us to death.

      It’s minor and will go away if it’s not continuously fought for, but each person who does this impacts many thousands of lives for as long as they the line

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      • aksdb@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Also, we need to seriously regulate consulting companies, they are a tool to diffuse responsibility away so no one has to take it

        Consultants aren’t an issue by themselves. The issue is accountability of decision makers. A consultant — per its name and role — just consults. They don’t decide. If a manager uses consultants in their decision making that is fine, but the decision to do so and to follow their advise is on the manager.

        The bigger issue is that (seemingly) managers get bonuses for short term monetary goals and don’t get punished for longterm ill affects. If, after shit goes south, you could sue a former manager for damages, this could change. Although it might also cause managers to avoid any and all risk, which is also bad.

        It’s tricky

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  • raman_klogius@ani.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    MBAs will ruin the planet

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    • copingwithelmons@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      God damn fucking vultures.

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      • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Come the revolution they will be first ones up against the wall.

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