"What is the cost of lies?"

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• neuromorph@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  when Russia admitting an accident was news itself!

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• stateofaffairs@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lies are what bind people into a manufactured reality that stymies their ability to live free and meaningful lives.

  If we run with the cost trope, look at lies like a shady drug deal.

  You are angry and want to buy some satisfaction. You lost your job, or can’t buy a house, the cost of living is too high. Whatever it is, you are looking for relief.

  So a a shady dealer offers you a lie to give you some relief. You give them some personal freedom monthly and they sell you “immigration did this to you” and it works for awhile. But you start to realize the immigration story doesn’t hit the same way. You look for relief in new lies. So you give the dealer more freedom, and buy “its not just immigrants, its obviously trans people.” Yeah that’s it, those trans people are turning the steel factories into drag theaters, wrecking the economy. “Damn!” You think. “Its not my fault, its them!” The relief you get from the lies hooks you more.

  The hook is powerful. But you’re never satisfied and you need morenlies as your brain adjusts. You start to conflate your issues with freedom itself. You’re happy to give more freedoms over to the dealer for relief.

  The relief will always be temporary. You’ll never solve the problems that plagued you and you’ll die angry and depressed. Maybe if you gave up just a little more freedom, you could have had a better life.

  That’s the cost of lies.

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• CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think I’ve seen this before.

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• rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We have no idea what the cost of lies is because nowhere in the world is there a baseline of truth to clock it against. Russia’s biggest problem is that they let the info get out. This is FAR from the first time a country fucked up containment, you would just never hear about it.

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• tigermountain@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Just finished watching this and it’s one of the best miniseries I’ve seen. It did such an incredible job of portraying the oppressiveness of the Soviet state and its impact on its citizens. I found it a bit soul crushing seeing the parallels to what’s currently happening in the US when ideology comes first.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I saw it as one rogue asshole boss causing a disaster.

    US tried to downplay three mile island.

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    • nforminvasion@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wow! That boss sure had A LOT of sway over the USSR to enforce reactor rods with graphite tips! And to have intentionall held back computer technology in the reactor!

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  • Godric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It truly is a brilliant show, in a depressing sort of way.

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• megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Funnily enough, this isn’t even the worst leak of a disease from a lab in Russia. That honor (probably) going to the Sverdlovsk anthrax leak in 1979 which killed at least 68 people.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    US military spread bacteria over the west coast in operation sea spray in 1950. 11 hopitalized. One dead.

    Scientists told the military that post war nuclear testing should occur off the east coast because of prevailing winds. Military: fuck you and here’s your cancer.

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• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  the people in wuhan said the same thing just before things expanded out of control

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you believe the lab leak theory.

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    • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i do

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  • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I still remember reading reddit threads about what looked like mass incineration of human remains and the speculations thereabout.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And NY morgues had to use refrigerated trailers for over a year.

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    • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      wasnt that for ebola in africa?

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• legacy_warrior_104@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  WHO is still asking Russia for more details, including what actually caused the lab worker’s death and reports of a second pneumonia case.

  https://twitee.co/DrTedros/status/2107591815863968121

  So I guess we’re still at the “not enough information” stage.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pneumonia is not rare. 2.5 million a year die of it.

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s like saying MRSA is no big deal because millions of people die every year from bacterial infections.

      They’re studying some outlier versions of an illness with a much worse outcome.

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• Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  sigh

  I’ll get the 400 tons of sand and boron.

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• GutterRat42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  2019: The Sequel - 7 Years Later ☣️

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• LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Any information to the contrary, or is it just more propagandist hype?

  Russia is hiding all the plague victims? Seriously?

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  • FrenziedFelidFanatic@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Mostly hype. Plague isn’t that virulent with modern precautions and antibiotics, and Russia’s response has been to swiftly quarantine hundreds of people. Plague occurs naturally on occasion, and is largely a known threat.

    Most of the hype has been speculation around this case being a bioweapon combined with distrust in Russian institutions generally.

    I’m not one to trust Russia generally, but I don’t see much evidence that this is more than a nothing burger blown out of proportion by growing anti-Russia sentiment due to their invasion of Ukraine.

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    • mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Authoritarian regimes are a breeding ground for shitty cover-ups

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster

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    • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What are you talking about? Where? Who?

      www.dw.com/en/…/a-79560752

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    • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think Ukraine itself is a symptom of a bigger contagion, virulent capitalist greed that will kill us all.

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  • peopleproblems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hi Mr. Local Area Man. Funny of you to show up in yet another thread claiming that Russia is being preyed upon by the west again.

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    • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      🙄 as if, huh

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• Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  who are these people?

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  • Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    From the HBO show Chernobyl. It’s really well made and worth watching.

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    • zoltanshields@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’ve never seen a more accurate depiction of my typical experience in a professional environment. “Nobody wants to speak up or handle things correctly because someone senior with direct responsibility for your employment shouted down any dissent because they want to meet a metric” is apparently a timeless experience.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The show was very well done, but it implies this was history. That mass of reactor is still burning underground, and Russian bombs have damaged the sarcophagus covering it. The remaining reactors are still in use.

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    • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I first watched it on an airplane. Swapping between the seat screen and my phone. Great show. Can’t wait to watch it again someday

      Then I watched it on a big(?) ((I guess 60inch?) TV at home. Great show. Let’s make sure I’m in the right mental space before I rewatch the show…)

      mild spoilers for history I guess

      The hospital scenes on a much bigger screen. Seeing the (I know its all dramatised) impact of lies on a bigger screen really affected me.

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• Malica@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That was Ukraine though. I guess still USSR.

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  • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The Soviet management fucking everything up is eternal and omnipresent.

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    • Eldritch@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      If something can be fucked up. The state will find a way. The bigger the state, the bigger the fuck up.

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• x0x7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Maybe they’ll do the same thing as China. Leaving their international airports functional while locking down their cities, intentionally infecting as many places as possible. And then legit Xi goes on air to scold other nations telling them they need to learn how to do international cooperation.

  Everything was closed in Wuhan except outbound international flights.

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  • chewypoops@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    People keep saying that the Fediverse is too hard to use because you need to be techy and understand instances and stuff. But here you are, happily using Lemmy without a brain.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Leaving their international airports functional while locking down their cities, intentionally infecting as many places as possible.

    Are we still doing Wuhan Lab Leak Theory? Wasn’t that debunked ages ago as some Trumpie lie pushed to deflect our own abysmal COVID response?

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    • x0x7@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This has nothing to do with lab leak theory. This is what China actually did. They think in terms of comparison with other countries and they didn’t want to be the only country with covid, regardless of the origin.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There was an attempt at debunking the lab leak theory early on with a nature article saying we do not believe any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible. Then there was a rejected DARPA research proposal detailing exactly how the laboratory-based scenario is possible.

      Lab origin has not been proven but there is no natural zoonotic path to Wuhan. Lab encouraged gain of function with in species reproduction seems most likely.

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    • GardenGeek@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      China continues to withhold data from the WHO regarding the outbreak in Wuhan. That in itself is not proof, but now, seven years into the pandemic, I personally find it suspicious. The other indicators supporting the lab-origin theory are well known. Aside from the incompetence of the Trump I administration, it seems that some intelligence agencies still subscribe to this theory.

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• finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  “You’re quite a piece of work, Mr Cockroach. We could learn a lesson from you, especially in light of recent events. I have an idea come this time tomorrow I’ll be gone, but you’ll still be trucking, running little roach errands”.

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• thiscat@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I dont like the sound of it

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• onipa@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  @slampisko I get it!

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