Submitted 2 weeks ago by Forester@pawb.social to [deleted]
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My entire life I have known speach to mean verb that describes act of speaking in the present tense, while speech to be the verb that is the past tense act of speaking professionally/publicly to a group.
According to google :The correct spelling is speech. “Speach” is an outdated spelling from hundreds of years ago and is now considered a spelling mistake.
It seems like maybe you just mixed up the spelling of speech and speak?
Speech isn’t a verb, it’s a noun. The verb would be speak. In English, nouns don’t have their own tenses, they are interpreted from context. Here’s an interesting article about temporal interpretation, if you’re interested: https://blog.oup.com/2023/02/do-nouns-have-tense/
is speech (or speach i guess) ever a verb? its a noun describing the talking. you don’t speech, you speak.
“slow speech” “give a speech” “her speech” “speech writer” “speech class”
vs
“speak with an accent” “speaking of the mandella effect” “i love to listen to you speak”
i feel like youre getting ”speech” and ”speak" confused here…
me do speech
Still a noun: me do your mom
thx, after reading your post with my inner voice, “speak” and “speech” don’t sound like real words anymore
Semantic satiation
English degree and retired schoolmarm typing here.
If you and I were speaking in person, what we were doing could be described as the act of speech. (act and speech are both nouns in that phrase) For the past tense you would say we spoke.
Einstein up there looks like he’s giving a speech. Speech is a noun, like a candy, or a damn, which he could also give if he chose to.
Sounds like you got corrected on the spelling in the context of “he gave a speech” and decided that spelling was special to that meaning.
Which is reasonable and allowed you to continue thinking
(incorrectly, but also reasonably)
speak–>speach
But the truth is more boring, it’s only the one word for ordinary and special speech. And the correct spelling is not the reasonable one you derived.
As to how it’s been this long…It’s the kind of error people might notice but assume it’s a typo and not bother to mention, because it’s not confusing.
I can’t let this one go.
That’s not Einstein, that’s Christopher Lloyd as “Doc Brown” in Back To The Future.
His character’s look was likely influenced heavily by Einstein’s appearance, so I guess I see the confusion. But hard to believe you’re old enough to be retired and haven’t seen that movie, or at least references to that character.
He also had a dog called Einstein and said the name quite a few times, which could subliminally add to the confusion when typing about something loosely related.
What’s weird is that I saw the picture and recognised Doc Brown as Doc Brown, but then when I read that response I didn’t notice the wrong name and instead started remembering the picture as Einstein in the same pose and context. Only when I read your response did I realise I’d been tricked. It’s a reminder how easily a person’s mind can be tricked sometimes.
Canonically speaking, I think Doc Brown just barely didn’t work with Einstein. He would have worked with Oppenheimer and crew though. He may have even met Einstein.
This is where my mind went too lmao
My bad, of course I know and love Doc. I guess I’m so old my eyes failed me late at night on my phone. 🥴
Maybe, “Einstein up there” was sarcastic.
I don’t know what I’m more annoyed at. That you confused Doc from back to the future with Einstein or that as I’ve now seen “speach”, I can’t help but “ew” at “speech” despite first time ever hearing of “speach”. “Speach” is SO much better Dx
Oh God, of course it’s Doc, I was very tired last night. I’m not a huge fan of speach but I kinda like OP’s distinction between public and private speaking. I can even imagine a mnemonic, the ee is the little faces of the audience looking up at Einstein/Doc speechifying, the ea are the two people looking at each other in a conversation.
Correct grammar is relative after all
A relative truth: my Grammar is always correct, or so my Grampar tells me.
OP were you taught by a vampire in school?
One of my chemistry professors was most certainly a energy vampire.
It’s always the chem profs…
Okay… fuck… I too was convinced it was speach. As in “to give a speach”. Welp, glad there’s someone else from my original Everett branch.
I would pronounce that like the sound an old man would make when he’s clearing his throat. Perhaps before he gives a speech.
“Speach” must be common usage in whatever universe you came from. It definitely isn’t in this one. People are getting much more dumber, though, so if you starts using it more people might will does it too.
Time to dig up your high school yearbook
Yeerbook
Ye olde speach.
Does your family use it that way? Did you go to public school, home schooled?
I could see overworked teachers not noticing, especially if your hand writing is ‘messy’ or just that it’s good enough.
I’m thinking your family has used it that way since forever and taught you that way as well, which I think would be pretty cool.
do you maybe read a lot of books with old grammar?
Perchance
You can’t just say perchance!
awmwrites@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Person with an English degree here.
Welcome to the speech and Berenstain timeline
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Now you’re going to tell me the cornucopia emoji never existed.
terranoid@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Why does everyone remember a green seahorse emoji, it’s like at the tip of my tongue but an idea
Forester@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Thanks, I hate it.
terranoid@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Wait are you serious? Is speach/speech a Mandela Effect, and you remember speach as an English teacher?
FluidBeef@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
Mandela? You mean that guy who died in prison long before he could became internationally famous?