ICE agents attempt to arrest US Citizen in St Peter, Minnesota

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• favoredponcho@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Jumping out with guns drawn. This looks like a gang robbery.

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  • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The way they whipped up and piled out I 100% thought they were about to carjack someone.

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• breezeblock@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Look at that terrible technique — swerving dangerously. They are untrained clowns being prepared to become trumps personal militia.

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How about pointing all their guns at the driver then assaulting her physically? That’s also terrible technique.

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  • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In MSP as soon as they sent in actual trained people (the state’s national guard) things calmed down. It’s amazing how well they can handle a situation.

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    • IronBird@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and the NG are barely a step above trained than these clowns…but they’re atleast local to the area somewhat, and unlike police they’re not really looking for a fight, just an easy paycheck

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• Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Thats a fucking gang attempting kidnapping

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• Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Something to remember about situations like this where time is of the essence, don’t just yell “Someone call 911/for help!” Actually DESIGNATE someone from the crowd to do so. The bystander effect assumes that someone else will do it. Don’t let people think like that. While doing CPR, you’re told to point specifically at someone to call for assistance. Same goes for something like this.

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  • PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yep, point to someone and loudly command them to call 911 NOW. This is First Aid 101.

    Had to do that myself once, not a fun time. Had an emotional breakdown after. EMT and medical professionals at large have my utmost respect.

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  • VeganBtw@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To anyone reading this, the bystander effect is maybe not as strong as we once thought. Mainly because a 2019 study showed more than 200 real-life situations caught on CCTV where the bystander effect was not shown to happen.

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    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It wasn’t even real in the Kitty Genovese case, which is the most famous “example” of it happening.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even if it’s not as strong, or even if it doesn’t exist at all, it’s still a good idea. It’s an unambiguous order to a single person. There’s no way to think it’s anything else. A general appeal can be seen as anyone else should do it, but you’re not going to.

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• LordCrom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If I am boxed in by a car with no police lights with masked men jumping out and immediately pointing guns at me… Floor it. This is self defense because I have no way of knowing who is threatening my life. With guns drawn you can’t see POLICE on the vests either.

  I would prefer that and deal with the aftermath after.

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The aftermath might be you’re dead… but eventually this is going to happen and they will survive and it’s going to go to court. I would love to see the precedent get set that it was indeed self defense.

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  • AndrewInATree@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean, they jumped out with guns drawn. There was really no chance to move the car at that point and survive. They did it to Renee Good. They’ll do it again.

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  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sounds like a case of in for a penny in for a pound. Don’t let kidnappers take you to point b.

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• BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Police are Allowed to Protect people AGAINST ICE?

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  • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We found the good cop. Yay!

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    • hakase@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nah, turned out it’s just nepotism as usual. The woman’s husband personally knows the police chief.

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  • hakase@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If your husband is personally friends with the police chief, yes.

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  • breadleyloafsyou@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’ll only do it if they are friends. Husband said in an article that he has known the chief of police for years.

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• n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Remember:

  1] The US public has no right to film ICE (per the DOJ). 2] ICE has complete immunity. 3] ICE hates cameras.

  4] therefore, it’s illegal to film ICE.

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  • Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You have a constitutional right to film from a safe distance while on public land like sidewalks, etc. ICE is breaking the law wholesale by targeting citizens exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

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    • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ICE is breaking the law wholesale by targeting citizens exercising their 1st Amendment rights

      Yes, you’re in the right, and ICE is in the wrong, and keep filming them, just know that being right isn’t always healthy.

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  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you do illegal things, you’ll put put into the criminal category they want to put you into anyway. Resisting qualifies you as criminal as well.

    So there is no incentive to comply.

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    • Furbag@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      According to the bootlicking chodes I’ve argued with recently, just existing anywhere near ICE performing their kidnapping operations is obstruction.

      Apparently getting shot in the back 10 times is excusable if you were somehow preventing ICE from disappearing people by standing on a public sidewalk. It’s total psychopath abuser mentality.

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  • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you start a line with "1. " (as in: one period space) then it’ll be treated like a numbered list. You don’t have to increment the number, just keep using 1.

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    • n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Artistic choice. But good to know.

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• kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I won’t be impressed until police officers start actually arresting these fake “federal agents” when they assault someone. Put the fear of the actual law in these lawless motherfuckers.

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• Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Treat them like crimminals is a good long term strategy where law enforcment works for its citizens.

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• ulkesh@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The piece of shit Trump wants a civil war. This is how he will get it. Fuck ICE. Fuck Trump. And FUCK everyone who wants this.

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• RaoulDuke85@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Can ICE chase you? Like if you stop and then take off? I know they will probably shoot, but seems like they will shoot either way.

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  • Blade9732@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, they can chase. They do not operate under any known laws, rules or jurisdiction.

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  • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can they? No, they don’t engage in law enforcement. Will they? Absolutely, because they give no fucks and won’t be held accountable.

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    • RaoulDuke85@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not arguing, but they are fat lazy fucks that mainly seem to harass people in a specific location. Never seen any run or make too much of an effort besides public executions.

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    • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      All of their cars are dogshit SUVs or minivans. Anyone on something even remotely fast can wipe the floor with those goons.

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  • sobchak@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I read a post from someone in MN that said ICE typically doesn’t pursue people that run (on foot or vehicle). They can chase you, probably not legally in most cases, but laws don’t apply.

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• pelley@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So dashcams are illegal?

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ICE is not about the law. It’s about terror and proving there are no limits on their power.

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• CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m cross-posting this post to !crimes_of_ice@lemmy.4d2.org so they can archive it.

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• BC_viper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They should have been shot

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  • laranis@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That unmarked car stops me without warning and four masked men with guns drawn jump out of the car I’m assuming I’m in a fight for my life.

    I’d lose, but you’re dead either way in that scenario. This woman came within moments of the end of her life.

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    • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Anyone’s best bet is to try to swerve around in that situation, before they stopped. I’ve had yahoos once try to box me in like that when road raging. You don’t know what they’ll do once they get out, so just swerve around before you find out.

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• anzo@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I reckon she didn’t have a bazooka. No 2nd amendmente of course. This is the land of the free (violence), after all… what’s the news? /s …

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• OrganicMustard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  At this point try to get a bulletproof windshield and run them over when they point a gun at you

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  • Cort@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Explorer and chargers commonly have bullet proof windshields made in the correct shape since their police vehicles, but they’re significantly heavier and require specialized knowledge and adhesive to install correctly.

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    • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t know if the glass is currently up to spec but the old crown vics with the interceptor package are quietly tanks

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• doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The link doesn’t work for me so I can’t see if there’s video. But people filming police get detained all the time. This is what the first amendment auditors and police accountability crowd are all about. I wish people cared so much the million other times this has happened for decades.

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The video isn’t of that. She was driving in a car and they were chasing her, likely due to filming them before this starts.

    They speed ahead of her, no flashing lights, stop in front of her and come out of the car guns immediately drawn ponting at her wearing masks.

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• theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We all know this is one of the worst crimes just below having an accent and non white skin.

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