You can have dark fantasy with actual characters and plot and world building though. I don’t know how you can ever believe anyone’s motivation or develop any emotional response to any of the characters in elden ring (jar bairn probably gets closest for me). It feels as if no two NPCs ever actually interact. A world where noone can die so they’re willing to eternally throw themselves at anything that moves isn’t very compelling/believable. It’s basically just grimdark skinned super Mario world: level, boss, onto the next one. Which is fine for what it is, but if you prefer story driven/RPG gaming you wouldn’t miss much by skipping it.
Anon hates dark fantasy
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julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Hazzard@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
All female characters die
I mean… does anyone but the player survive that DLC?
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
You can keep Moore (say you don’t know) and Freyja (don’t give her the scroll) alive in the DLC, and Hewg and Rodericka ‘survive’ the base game.
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Mimic tear is the only thing to survive the dlc.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
“I like this movie, but do we really need the whole war part of it?”
“Well, I mean… it’s a movie ABOUT World War 2…”
“Yeah, but… I just think it’s so depressing and violent.”
“IT’S ABOUT A WAR.”
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Tbf isn’t there a trope of zombie movies having too much romance drama instead of scavenging and surviving?
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
Well that’s the funny thing, Zombie Movies have never actually been about Zombies, that’s the point.
They’re about one or more of a few things;
- the impossibility of surviving and living a happy life in a world obsessed with consumerism
- the human ability to survive the impossible
- society will survive an apocalypse, by banding together
KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I think this is less a question of subject and more a question of motivation.
yakko@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
I would love a video game based on the Chronicles of the Black Company. Good dark fantasy has alive women, not everything is ruined, and people sometimes telling the truth. Because when everything is fucked there’s nothing left to lose, so who would care?
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 16 hours ago
Just as with Game of Thrones or Lost, I once again appreciate that someone else was willing to sacrifice themselves for me so I didn’t have to.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Kinda agree, but that’s why I left A Song of Fire And Ice sitting on the shelf and read Metamor Keep instead
Mika@piefed.ca 15 hours ago
Isn’t the whole point of godhood in the lands between is about ability to give birth? Everyone is old beyond recognition because current god fucked the things up on it’s own whim. I assume at least some of the endings fix this.
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
I will say that while I love dark souls I wish that things are take inspiration from its work would maybe consider adapting its combat but not the dead world. Sometimes it would be nice to have fun characters and alive world interact with well also having a smooth combat system.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
Valid but personally I’m way more sick of the gameplay style than the dark fantasy theme. It was fun for Demon’s Souls, Dark Souls, and Dark Souls 2, but after that I just can’t stomach another game based on melee combat with dodge rolling and reacting to telegraphed enemy attack patterns.
Visstix@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Another crab’s treasure?
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I am really stuck in the final boss and this game the real boss is the camera controls and mushy platforming
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 13 hours ago
I was thinking exactly this! That game kicked my ass and dark souls is my comfort food. I just ran through to anor Londo in like 2-3hra last night and can’t across a smattering of souls I left in the beginning of the game running to get the early fire keeper soul in Ghost town.
makyo@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I would have said no chance a year ago but with Nightreign this year they do seem to be willing to experiment a little bit. A dream of a vibrant Souls from Fromsoft can live a little longer.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Lies of P maybe?
obstbert@feddit.org 14 hours ago
I am wondering how one would combine the punishing combat and the fact that the character is constantly dying with an alive world.
Not saying it is impossible, but a undead, ruined world is for sure the easiest way to have it ‘make sense’. At least to me
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Returnal handles it pretty well
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
Another Crabs Treasure
julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Most games tackle it by making reincarnation a special trait of the protagonist, but yeah punishing difficult inherently kills story. You caobe immersed I a cut scene you’re being forced to skip through for the 14th time. What’s the motivation of any of your enemies? The stakes are so low, you’ll just be back again ad infinitum. They’d be better fleeing or negotiating.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 17 hours ago
Dark Souls was majorly inspired by Zelda …
molten@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
What was Demon’s souls inspired by?
anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
yeah, Little Witch Nobeta is also full of some dead NPCs and mostly npcs that never even were alive at all.