We’re all just going to ignore the ,|'/` key?
Especially the Ø...
Submitted 3 weeks ago by cosmicrookie@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
lime@feddit.nu 3 weeks ago
DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
How often do most people use § and ½ !? Is a dedicated key really necessary?
abfarid@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
Somebody is going to comment that it’s the loss button any minute now.
scops@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
I think that’s a letter from the Yautja alphabet
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Ok I’m probably the idiot here, but why not just make one key umlauts, and one for both directions of apostrophe, and then make it a key combo with the standard vowel?
Like how shift+a = A, it would be umlaut+a = ä, and shift+umlaut+a = Ä?
How do the real keys (pic) even work?
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I’m guessing (not sure) that AltGr, visible in the picture, switches between the two options like Shift would. Shift still switches case.
I think the main reason they didn’t make an umlaut modifier is that ä is considered a distinct letter from a. It would be like asking why have a key for w (“double u”) when it could have been typed as uu. Not a perfect analogy but the best I can think of right now.
SigmarStern@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I’m a German that uses an US keyboard with the US intl layout. I think it solves all of my keyboard needs: I have the benefits of the US layout for programming and access to all common umlauts.r RAlt+S = ẞ e.g. …wikipedia.org/…/Tastaturbelegung_US-Internationa…
argh_another_username@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
This looks like a Norwegian/Swedish keyboard. What’s infuriating about it?
daddycool@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s a nordic keyboard, and it’s infuriating that it’s imposible to tell which key is Æ and which is Ø. Just decide on one key for each for f…ks sake.
fedtemis@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
It’s easy. If you’re swedish, look for the swedish letters. If you’re danish, look at the first letter, and if you’re norwegian look at the second.
VonReposti@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
Hey, it’s Danish too!
The infuriating part is that Danes and Norwegians couldn’t agree on which buttons to place the Æ and Ø. Even worse is that usually the Norwegian layout is more pronounced/better positioned for backlighting making the Danish Æ and Ø look like an afterthought.
whaleross@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Different countries have different languages, alphabets and keyboard layouts. Scandinavian countries keyboards are quite commonly produced together because they share most but not all of the letters, symbols and positions. This looks pretty standard to me.
Skua@kbin.earth 3 weeks ago
To explain more specifically for those that are, like me, curious but unfamiliar:
- Top left of each of those keys is the Danish layout
- Top right is Norwegian
- Bottom right is Swedish
- The Å is the same in all three so it can just be by itself
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As someone who isn’t clued up on Nordic languages and has no idea how any of this is supposed to be pronounced, my brain just went to the overtones for help
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Æ = Like the A little n “asshole”.
Å = Like the A in “awful”.
Ø = Like the U in “Ugly”.As a Scandinavian, one of my biggest pet peeves is when someone uses Ø instead of O because it looks cool. Sure, whatever, but it makes reading it really tiresome. Imagine if someone typed your name as UnduBrani and expected you not to trip over decades of reading practice.
Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Ø = Like the U in “Ugly”.
Not like German Ö? Or French “eu” as in l’heur or l’Europe? I can’t seem to find any English words with the sound I’m thinking of though. In some dialects “curry” might possibly be approximated as [körri] but that’s not very helpful… (Coincidentally, Ö is also the face I made when I read this)
breecher@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
That would be Norwegian. They are pronounced different in Danish.
Frostbeard@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is because someone can’t be arsed to make a dedicated Norwegian/Swedish/Danish keyboard. Norway and Denmark uses æ/ø/å. But ofc not the same key position. Sweden ä/ö/å. The same goes for several of the other keys. What they type depends on language used
skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
[deleted]cute_noker@feddit.dk 10 hours ago
I am already a keyboard warrior, let’s go!!!
drivepiler@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
For Kalmar!
ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
How do you pronounce that letter? There’s a Danish band I’ve been getting into lately, MØL, but I don’t know how to say it. I’ve been saying “mole” in my head, but I doubt that’s right. It seems to get romanized as “oe” so would it be pronounced “mo-el”?
torkildr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The Ø is pronounced as eg. the vowel sound in “learn” or the vowel sound in “bird”.
isyasad@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Learn” and “bird” are pronounced very differently depending on the accent of English. Wiktionary has “learn” RP pronunciation listed as lɜːn and American as lɝn, although personally I don’t believe in ɝ so I would write it as lɹn and bɹd.
Slight rant about American English IPA, but Wiktionary even has American “bird” listed as bɜɹd, which is frankly ridiculous. Say bɜɹd out loud and it sounds absolutely insane. Be’rd. Nobody says bɜɹd, it’s gotta be bɹd. English spelling treats R as a consonant, but American English functionally treats it like a vowel. If we spelled with R the same way it’s pronounced, it would be brd, lrn, teachr, wrking, etc. Not suggesting a spelling reform, because the current system works so well for uniting different accents of English, but it seriously bugs me when people talk about how American R (ɹ) is a consonant. It’s not!
paranoia@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
That’s simply wrong.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Basically its the sound you make just before puking, just without the gargling. Do a video search to confirm
FrederikNJS@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Accurate
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The musician MØ was asked how to pronounce her stage name once, and she pointed out its just her initials (Marie Ørsted) so there’s not really a right pronunciation to MØ.
I still don’t have a clue how Ø is pronounced, like in Ørsted.
FrederikNJS@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
While “MØ” is her initials, it’s actually also a word in Danish for “Maiden”. It’s an old word, not used commonly.
The Google Translate text-to-speak is fairly accurate: translate.google.com/?sl=da&tl=en&text=Mø&op=tran…
Ørsted is also pronounced fairly accurately:
paranoia@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
Well the vowel Ø represents OE in Danish.
Its a noise that is between “oo” and “u” in English.
FrederikNJS@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
“Møl” is the Danish word for “Moth”, the Google Translate text-to-speech pronunciation is pretty good:
Sunny@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Apropriate time to say the Norwegian alphabet is the best?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f488uJAQgmw (Funny song about why Norways alphabet is the best)
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Shortcut for writing System of a Down lyrics
daggermoon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I bet that keyboard feels terrible to type on.
oplkill@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wish those type of words would been removed from all languages
Valmond@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Meanwhile: Å
cloudless@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I've never seen the F10/F11 buttons being used for calls.
jodanlime@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
It’s a Thinkpad thing. I always use Linux and don’t map them to anything so I don’t really find them useful but maybe they are in windows.
dabster291@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
why is there a concerned woozy emoticon key
abfarid@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
The key to the right of Å is you looking at this keyboard.
ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I bought a laptop with a Swedish keyboard since I’ll be studying there for a few years. It’s a learning curve for sure and this face is accurate
abfarid@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
I once had a laptop with (I think) Swedish kb (that I bought during my studies in Latvia), but it wasn’t this loaded. Judging by the comments, this seems to be a mixed Scandinavian kb layout, for multiple languages.
M137@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
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