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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • Jagermo@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Oh hey, our tracking is so invasive that it is illegal in your part of the world and we are too lazy to do something about it.”

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    • Holzkohlen@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Dodged a bullet there. Thanks EU

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      • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Byjus is probably the second sussest company in India, so that checks out. They (sort of) sued banks that had lent them money for asking for it back.

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      • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        How do you sort of sue someone?

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    • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We are too lazy greedy fucks to do something about it

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  • igorlogius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That website wants to sell all the userdata without consent

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    • SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Consent? That’s just some woke word made up to damage family-owned businesses!

      Them, probably.

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      • _thisdot@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        To be fair, the founder of the business, Byju, used to be a very ordinary school teacher and then he built this whole thing. Not family-owned, nor born rich.

        Fuck their business practices though

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    • dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or they can’t or won’t spend the time to comply to regulations of a region they might not do business in anyway.

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      • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s not a business website, I opened it for some random math article.

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      • WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If they aren’t doing business in the EU, they don’t need to comply with GDPR. While it technically protects EU citizens’ data everywhere, in practice it’s not possible to govern companies that are completely outside the EU.

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why is it basically only the EU that seems to have an interest in preventing shitty business practices.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because the US is controlled by corporations

      Asia for the most part doesn’t care

      Australia is run by right wing nut jobs

      New Zealand is quiet so they probably do do something like this but we haven’t heard about it.

      Japan is Japan. Civil rights isn’t really a thing.

      And China and Russia love invasion of privacy it’s basically the entire basis of their countries.

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      • Ixoid@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Well actshually… Australia used to be run by right-wing nutjobs. The current mob in power are centrist nut jobs.

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      • abrasiveteapot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I would like to point the RWNJs finally got voted out in Oz last year (federal and most states). Of course Murdoch and co. are working hard to reverse that, but semi sane leadership is in place for at least a year or two more.

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      • cordlesslamp@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You forgot Africa, South America, Canada, Greenland(?).

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      • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        China and Russia are dictatorships meaning they do whatever the fucknthey like and if you don’t like it you might become suicidal.

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      • Ryumast3r@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        As with most things in the US, California has similar laws to the gdpr (though admittedly not as powerful), so a lot of websites are starting to change a bit in the US because of california.

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    • BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Moatly about capitalism i think. If you put on privacy restrictions, you are regulating the market, while capitalism believes that the market should regulate itself, and customers will simply stop using those websites/softwares overtime if its too bad. I find this completely delusional in the era of mega corporations, but thats the capitalistic aproach to this.

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      • WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        EU is capitalist, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Maybe you’re just another person blaming everything on capitalism because that’s easier than understanding the actual problems. Might as well blame it on the prevalent system.

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      • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        capitalism believes that the market should regulate itself

        Anarcho-capitalism ⊊ capitalism.

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    • Efwis@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because they listen to people rather than ignore them and then make policy based on how much money they can make from the deal.

      This shows me the EU is actually more democratic then the US is.

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    • rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s much harder to pay off the lawmakers to keep the status quo when the economic area is controlled by dozens of individual governments.

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      • cynar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is actually a particularly important point. The nature of the EU is laden with bureaucracy. Combined with the wide range of cultures, and the rotation of staff, it makes bribing enough people to get your way difficult. You end up needing people in multiple countries to deal with it, and the rotations make long term deals difficult.

        The end result is that bribing EU bureaucracy is like trying to stop a river with just hands. It’s far less effective, letting the EU be a lot more effective (if slow).

        There’s a reason so many big business interests want to break up the EU.

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    • calavera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Brazil also has a similar law called LGPD, I think it was made based on European GDPR

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      • Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Actually, and I’m quite proud of this, the LGPD was already being discussed before the EU’s GDPR. It may not look like it, but Brazil is at the forefront of digital protection and privacy.

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    • Oneobi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yah, I just get Google to block these sites from ever being recommended again.

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    • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because they can’t do whatever they want here

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    • Saneless@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is bribery political donations not a thing in Europe?

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  • alphacyberranger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I want more predatory websites to do this so that I can avoid them.

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    • Obi@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Anyone out of the EU can VPN to an EU country and benefit.

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  • aksdb@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Some idiots keep using one of my email adresses for god knows what, ending up in me receiving newsletters and shit. Since actual user accounts are associated, I typically recover the password (since its my email adress) and then delete the account.

    There are a few websites with similar restrictions though. They are completely fine sending shit to email adresses they never bothered to verify, but reject logins from countries (or even US states!) that they don’t want. Morons.

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    • dept@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      that’s when you report as spam. that shit hurts their trust rating and makes their emails more likely to end up in people’s spam folders, pretty much killing their newsletter

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      • Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Or auto forward it to their customer service email, or company email.

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  • vmachiel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is fine imo. If you don’t want to comply, don’t. You just don’t get to extract EU data

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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      • Alterforlett@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Poor strawman mate. You don’t have to be “a geoblocking fan,” you can despise it, while also not enabling privacy invasive firms.

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      • dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        cutting people off from important information just because they live in a geographical region that doesn’t allow secret malware.

        I think most disagree with your argument, that you need to tolerate ‘secret malware’ to access important information. That information can’t be THAT important or else it could be found elsewhere, completely without malware.

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      • zit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Unfortunately you aren’t automatically entitled to this information that I imagine mostly comes from private for-profit companies.

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      • realitista@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You always have the option of a VPN. That and private mode is probably a good best practice for a site like this anyway.

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      • Khanzarate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        See, while I don’t like the invasiveness of it, that’s also their business model. If they put it behind a subscription instead, it wouldn’t be right to say “this information is important and needs to be available, stop charging for it,” when charging for it is part of why they provide it. Private companies have a right to not do business with those that won’t pay for their services, even if that payment is your data.

        Europeans (and everyone, morally) have a right to privacy that conflicts with the method of payment. This website resolved that, if it can’t get paid in it’s chosen form, it won’t provide its service. That’s fine. I don’t support this decision, but it’s not

        If this information is vital to the public, that’s a separate issue entirely, and it needs to be available in some form that isn’t sold. We can’t rely on a private entity not employed by a government to do this of its own free will.

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    • Supertramper@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Right, at least they are honest about it and - in a way- comply with GDPR by avoiding it.

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    • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, but it shows how they behave toward people who aren’t in the EU.

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  • jet@hackertalks.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, that’s one way to comply

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    • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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      • Wodge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You can’t just say “nah, fuck it” and not serve the page.

        You can, and it’s compliant. It’s a loss of potential business for companies that haven’t made the necessary changes, but they also don’t get your data.

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      • SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You can’t just say “nah, fuck it” and not serve the page.

        It’s only illegal if you say “nah, fuck it” when users decline to agree with your data collection terms, but offer it when they do.

        This is an identical experience, independent of your (dis)agreement with their policies.

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      • PixxlMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The EU only cares if your website affects EU citizens. This one has pulled out of the EU market entirely, the EU doesn’t care then and have no jurisdiction either then.

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      • RazorsLedge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Source?

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  • Jumpinship@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Perfect. Would be nice if US implemented the same regulations

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    • pjhenry1216@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Personal data is an enormous market in the US. Too many big players located here. It'd never happen unfortunately. We'd need to replace all of Congress with folks who actually care about rights and people instead of money. We have only a handful on the left and that's only in the house, and that's being generous. I haven't seen any attempts really on the right. So it'd be a long time until this is even remotely possible. I'd be amazed to see a senator actually care about people though. Or even a governor.

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      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Don’t forget the centrists, who want a happy medium between you being a product for someone else’s money, and having privacy. Because, you know, a lack of privacy is totally cool or something…

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  • betwixthewires@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, this is what you wanted isn’t it? Your government is protecting you, anyone who can’t comply can’t serve you.

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    • DasRubberDuck@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I read that as you being facetious, but: Yes this is exactly what I want. If a service can not comply with GDPR, the service should not be accessible. It would be great for their customers if the service decided to change their practices to become compliant, but that is a business decision they need to make.

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      • Pechente@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Adding to that: Compliance is not even that hard to implement. I build almost all of my websites with GDPR compliance in mind and it’s not really a big deal. There are easy to use tools like Cookie Consent and some of the sites don’t even need a banner at all if they have no tracking (which you know, is completely possible too).

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      • betwixthewires@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Well I’m only being facetious insomuch as the OP is annoyed at a perfectly predictable outcome of laws that Europeans wanted. I’m very critical of the GDPR, I do want laws that prevent data harvesting but I just don’t think the GDPR was the right approach.

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    • FMT99@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not “can’t comply” but “doesn’t want to comply”. Other than that fully agreed, it is what I wanted.

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    • BrokebackHampton@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh no! What will I do now without the prescient geopolitical insight of the Chattanooga Evening Telegraph?

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      • betwixthewires@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The OP is irritated for some reason, I guess they really wanted that insight.

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    • aksdb@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s for the greater good, but it’s also somewhat against the intention of the law, IMO.

      Dataprotection is meant to give users control of their data. A restriction like that takes away a bit of my control, however, since it prevents me from doing whatever the fuck I want with my data.

      But again: greater good. It also protects people who don’t know what they are doing.

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    • WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      anyone who can’t comply can’t serve you.

      That’s not true. If the company isn’t doing business in the EU, they don’t need to comply with the GDPR. What I mean is, they’re entirely outside the jurisdiction of the EU and are not required to comply with any EU law. If the EU decides they want to force a non-EU company to comply, they have no ability to do so.

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      • betwixthewires@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Serving ads to Europeans is doing business in the EU, and the US and EU have reciprocal civil enforcement mechanisms.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sadly, I live in the U.S., so if I went to this website, it would definitely take my data and sell it.

    We don’t get a GDPR to protect us. Be glad you do.

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    • xkforce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Proxy using an EU based server. Not like websites are going to actually check that you live there.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No thanks, I like fast internet.

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    • transigence@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why do you need a GDPR to protect you? If you don't want tracking cookies then don't let web sites write them to your computer. You are in charge of your computer.

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  • Echo71Niner@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    wtf is a byju… looks it up… ok, interesting.

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    • Eheran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So? What is it?

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  • Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    EU for the win.

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  • mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wish more invasive websites would do this.

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  • crtbob@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I need to know what this website is, so that I never use it.

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    • reddit_sux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Byju, it is an educational group known for its exploitative practices in selling over priced study materials for primary and secondary education in India and also for competitive exams.

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    • Sendbeer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s actually in the screenshot. Kind of hidden though.

      Here you go!

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    • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      startuptoenterprise.com/…/8-ways-byjus-learning-a…

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  • Chocrates@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just another lazy American company not wanting to protect user data and using GPDR as an excuse.
    Sure it takes work to treat user data properly but from a consumer perspective it is the right thing to do. Throwing shade at Europe because you don’t want to do it doesn’t seem the most productive thing to do.

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  • query@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Shows how broken the internet was and still is, basically the homeland of the internet is incapable of building internet pages that comply with basic regulation.

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  • vsh@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Speaking from experience this mostly applies to US websites. Land of the free 🗽🇺🇸

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  • transigence@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fix your governance and get rid of the GDPR, and the problem will be solved.

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  • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    🤷‍♂️ use another service if the nanny state controls your pipes.

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  • orangebussycat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Remember, you voted for this

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  • theKalash@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Get a VPN.

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