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"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/the-witcher/you-cant-just-have-geralt-for-every-single-game-says-his-voice-actor-and-if-you-think-the-witcher-4-making-ciri-the-protagonist-is-woke-then-read-the-damn-books/

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  • Apeman42@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not gonna lie, I was hoping they’d use some Law of Surprise stuff to give Geralt a new ward and let you create your own Witcher. But, if instead I get to do teleport strike bullshit with Ciri’s powers, I’ll be content.

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  • Aux@feddit.uk ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Americans telling Polish how to write their books and make their games, lol. Fuck off!

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  • CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Idk about you but I’m pre-ordering the woke game

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    • AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No pre-orders. This should be the No.1 rule for any gamer.

      You dont even know what you get, why would you pre-order?

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      • excral@feddit.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If pre-orders ever made sense, it was when you still needed a physical cartridge or disc and the game wouldn’t get patches anyways. But those days are long gone.

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      • CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Oh normally I’d agree, but this is a spite pre-order not a gaming pre-order

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    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I really enjoyed cyberpunk 2077, I bought it a year after release on sale.

      Now talk to several people who bought it day 1 😅

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      • CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I don’t mind, 90% of the value I’m getting out of this is making the sales of the game the MAGA people feel betrayed by go up by one

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    • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Eeew

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      • CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Just for that, I’m springing for the collectors edition

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  • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    i love woke, keep it coming

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  • Seefoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    honestly though, calling it woke makes me want to check it now…so 🤷. I am not sure woke is the insult its intended to be.

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  • Vince@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    How is work an insult? What am I supposed be? Asleep?

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      conservatives use it to shut down arguements, of things that they are potentially wrong about, which includes everything they dont like. but mostly refers to traditional male and female roles(no lgbtq+)

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    • Goretantath@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Ikr, idiots would rather be asleep at the wheel of life.

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  • ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Low lifes

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  • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What does reading the books have to do with the game. The books take place before the game series. Or am I mistaken.

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    • UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, Geralt and Yen “dies” and may or may not be saved by Ciri’s power at the end of the series. Ciri is the pivotal character in the story, Geralt is really just there trying to find her.

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  • mriswith@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve said for years that one or more of the main characters should be prominent, but you play most of the game as a custom character and you get to choose your witcher school. So I’m sort of hoping that she’s the protagonist and main character in a similar way to TW3.

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    • abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Eh, idk. The Witcher universe has a framework for an RPG, but the books have always been about Geralt and Co. You could do something different in that universe, but I think the story and the games have some very strong structure that comes from the player being Geralt and living his story.

      Witchers are a rare dying breed. Trying to shove another new generic Witcher in would force you into writing a whole new series of stories, and backgrounds, just for that one character, which would make it get lost in the mix imho.

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  • vane@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why complicate things ? Games are not books. I see Witcher game I expect Geralt. What is wrong with this thinking ? Do I need to think everytime I play Horizon ? No when I play Horizon I expect Aloy.

    There is nothing to do with woke. If you expect people to read books before they play a game there is something wrong with you not with people who want to play a game with their favourite character.

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    • denaggels@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The Witcher game series is based on the book series.

      The post criticizes not the expectation of players that haven’t read the books, but of the subset of people that think making Ciri the protagonist is a political message, when it’s just staying true to its source.

      Your critique has nothing to do with this post.

      Expectations differ from person to person. You see the games as a separate thing. They are obviously not. But it’s totally fair to want another witcher game with Gerald with his story continued. If the original creator of the story didn’t write it that way, then CD Project Red would have to come up with their own story. Straying too far from source material can end badly - see Game of Thrones seasons 6-8.

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      • vane@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Nah the author of article asume that all people that say that Ciri can’t be a witcher it’s because they claim it’s woke and tries to turn those who disagree to say it’s political. I clearly state it’s not. I don’t want Ciri in Witcher because I want to play Geralt. That’s all. The author puts books to afirmate his claims that only people who read books are worthy to say something about Ciri being a Witcher protagonist and that everyone else says it’s woke. No I disagree. Books are not Games.

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    • nuko147@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Geralt needs retirement. The ending of Blood and Wine expansion, tells you that loud and clear, and agree with that. It was a perfect ending for the Trilogy.

      Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now. I dont agree with the decision of Ciri becoming a Witcher (not making her the protagonist, but her taking the Mutagens), but i want to see how they explain that turn of events.

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      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now

        It’s canon in the books too. She was trained at Ker Moren, then trained by Yennefer but ultimately she gives up her magic entirely after pulling from fire as a source out of desperation. She remains an extremely skilled swordswoman with partial mutation

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      • vane@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That’s the problem, they want to put Ciri in same gameplay but different story and say that’s new Witcher. I would more likely play as Yenefer sorceress and slay monsters in a Witcher game than play as Ciri that somehow becomes a Witcher just to slay monsters with as sword. We already have character that slays monsters with a sword in Witcher game, he’s called Geralt.

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    • SleepyBear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I dont think its necessarily to complicate things but more that we’ve had Geralt as a main character for 3 games. His time is ending, and if you love him as a main character there are those 3 aforementioned games you can play to get what youre looking for. Switching up the main protagonist to another character that we as gamers have learned to love and accept through the series is probably the best move, both for business and canonically.

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  • k1ck455kc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    As long as they remake the original Witcher(and maybe the 2nd one too) so i can experience it in a similarly cinematic way to The Witcher 3… I will be happy and excited to see what a Ciri-based game or even trilogy would look like.

    Will definitely miss the masculine indulgences of TW3 in the Ciri game though…

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    • BmeBenji@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      If you’re avoiding the first two Witcher games because they’re somehow not cinematic, you’re sorely mistaken.

      Both of those games are incredibly atmospheric to the point of mastery. (tbf you have to be able to forgive the character models in the first game and that can be admittedly difficult because HOLY HELL ZOLTAN ARE YOU OKAY)

      also wtf do you mean “masculine indulgences?”

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      • pezhore@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Definitely not OP, but I wouldn’t mind remasters of the first game to address the wonky controls. Witcher 2 was fine, but trying to go from Witcher 3 back to Witcher 1 for the first time was not a great experience for me.

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    • kbotc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Ciri has a relationship with a woman in the books, so I’m not sure you will miss what I assume you’re referring to as “the masculine indulgences” as much as you think you will.

      On the other hand, CDPR retconned a shedload of that book so we shall see.

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    • BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They are remaking the first game, but I don’t know if there are enough details about it yet to know how extensive the overhaul will be. The second game doesn’t need one.

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  • courval@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Thanks, I find the winky a much better option than the cold monotonous /s

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  • VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This comment is woke

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  • Neuromorph@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    “Im happy to work with whatever the creative team comes up with.” is that a safe statement, or could that backfire, professionally?

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  • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I didn’t like Witcher 3. I played the main storyline to Skellige and after a while of adventuring there, I just could not bring myself to continue the game.

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    • phar@lemmy.ml ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As far as fantasy goes, are the books good?

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      • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, I think so. There’s are interesting large scale trends in the book’s world, and even though the protagonists are powerful beings, they’re forced to mostly just witness and react to the events. The characters are deep and interesting and the overall plot is rewarding.

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