Submitted 5 weeks ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Pugs.
Pugs shouldn’t exist.
Their existance is pain, constant health problems of many kinds.
We have sinned against Dog/God, commited a crime against nature, whatever phrasing your prefer, by molding them into what they are now.
www.forbes.com/…/pug-common-health-issues/
Infact, because pugs tend to have so many health problems, they can no longer be considered a “typical dog from a health perspective,” according to a 2022 study in Canine Medicine and Genetics.
Actually the breed standards are changing to push breeders towards healthier dogs!
They are call Retropugs and they tend to be bread with things like Terriers to give them functional skulls and spines!
Oh thank god.
I did not know this is occuring… I’ve known too many smashed faced pugs with serious lifelong health issues…
One of them I knew, skittered around a kitchen floor as a puppy… ran into the kitchen island, and his eyeball popped out of the socket, haning on by the optic nerve.
Its owner managed to get it to a vet and get the eye reinserted… and it seemed to kinda still work… but that pug had so, so many other health issues its whole life…
=C
My aunt had a pug and it couldn’t ever breath correctly. It was always drooling and snorting just to walk around. They always thought it was so adorable and I thought it was a cruel existence to purposely create something can’t fucking breath correctly.
to some people, other’s suffering is “adorable”
This is just straight up false. The oldest dog breed and the one most generically related to the wolf is the fucking shih tzu. Humans have been breeding dogs for every purpose we could need since before recorded history.
Are you sure about that shih tzu factoid? Sounds like bs
It’s one of the oldest dog breeds. Has less DNA in common than the Shiba Inu, but it’s number two last I checked. There’s paper floating around from a university in Hawaii that goes into more detail, but I couldn’t dig it up in a quick search. Will try to find it and reply with it when I have more time later.
All the ancient Chinese breeds are the closest related to Wolf. Lhasa Apso, Maltesw,Tibetan Terrier, and Pekingese. Then you get into Nordic breeds like huskys
In fairness, diarrhea is a pretty common response to a major dietary change for any animal, including humans. Any lapsed vegetarian will tell you that if you have been eating one way consistently and then suddenly switch it up, ya gonna shit.
Not to indirectly defend designer dogs but I assure you selective dog breeding has always been pretty screwed up.
Not every dog is some kickass livestock guardian, they’ve been making screwed up ones since before the steam engine.
Also, just because a dog looks “designer” doesn’t mean it’s unhealthy. The Bichon Frise for example is pretty hardy and regularly live to 16, 17, or even longer. Part of the reason is because they’re not a wildly popular dog breed and as a result they’re not overbred and their gene pool is pretty healthy.
Ehhhhh, anecdote of one over here that the Bichon I knew was a constant medical adventure
You all need to stop indulging in self righteous hate for licensed animal breeders. I get it, but your anger is misplaced.
Think about it for a second. If you banned licensed animal breeding, do you really think people will stop buying and producing pure bred animals?
If you think things are bad now, you should look at what animal breeding looks like before it was regulated. Banning it outright will only create a black market who’s only incentive is to bred for grotesque traits with even less regard for animal welfare.
The majority of modern licensed breeders are working to undo decades of fucked up animal breeding by reintroducing healthy traits while preserving marketable ones. Not to mention breeders are necessary for producing dogs who can be trained as guide dogs and medical alert dogs.
The problem lies with people who shop and don’t adopt. Don’t blame licensed breeders for trying to temper the grotesque demands of animal shoppers. Whether or not you ban it, animal breeding will continue and it’s only a matter of how much more animal abuse is involved.
How about fuck the people that keep buying and popularizing them?
Seriously though, the human obsession with playing god is truly dumbfounding to the point where I almost wish an asteroid did finally come and wipe us all out. People really believe they can justify anything…
Wanting to wipe out everyone because you don’t like what they’re doing. Sounds pretty god like.
Sure, but think about it. Once we’re all gone, what other human is going to make a big fuss? We might as well just admit this whole human thing failed.
You heard about the theory that dogs are just wolves with their version of down syndrome, so they were more docile. We kept breeding that trait till it became standard. This was in the very beginning 30-40 thousand years ago.
are just wolves with their version of down syndrome
Categorically false. Down syndrome is due to having an extra chromosome. Dogs and wolves have the same number of chromosomes.
The docile nature comes from literally having fewer neurons in aggression/panic/fight regions of their brain. MinuteEarth video
Problem of remembering articles you red some time ago.
I had the wrong syndrome. Down syndrome does not appear in dogs. Correct one was Williams-Beuren syndrome
well it worked well for them, there’s a lot more dogs than there are wolves.
And there are shitloads more super-hot peppers that never existed in nature. Evolution be weird sometimes.
Not the dogs fault you fed it Taco Bell
yesman@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There should be a parallel kennel show where only mutts and strays are allowed to enter. They should have categories to dunk on “pure”-breeds, like lowest vet bill or dogs over 14yo.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Name: Highway
Breed: I-75 berm
Birth year: Sometime before McDonald’s stopped using beef tallow
Total vet bills: -$20 (they paid us not to bring him back)
shalafi@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Jesus, haven’t laughed that hard all day.
eaterofclowns@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“Most Egregious Truth Stretching About Breed to Skirt HoA Regulations Against Pit Bulls”
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
When I was 18, I lived in an apartment building like 1/4 from the sand in Virginia Beach. They had restrictions on their restrictions so they could restrict you while you were restricted. It was insane.
My neighbor directly above us had the sweetest pit bull mix in the world named Lola. He used to call her his showgirl, she was amazing.
He got away with it by showing them papers, that he 100% forged, saying she was a pure blooded Staffing Nannyshire terrier. He was so fucking pleased with himself, and I do not blame him. In case anyone isn’t aware, Staffordshire terriers are a related breed to pit bulls (and pit bull is more of an umbrella term for several breeds), and pittys were called nanny dogs back in the day. He just threw some related words together and claimed her breed was originally bred as show dogs, and weren’t closely related to pit bulls. And the apartment bought it hook line and sinker.
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
“I’ll have you know that fluffy is part Pomeranian. Can’t you tell from the constant, loud [yet deep throated] yipping?”
Bgugi@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Events to include “breathing”