Really annoying!
This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection. In the server admin dashboard, you can require a phone number on the account or you can disable it and allow users without verified phone numbers to participate.
Discord requiring you to add a phone number **after** the creation of your account
Submitted 2 days ago by penguin202124@sh.itjust.works to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 days ago
scytale@lemm.ee 2 days ago
I work in the cybersecurity field and I hate that the official discord server of one of the international orgs I’m involved in requires a phone number to participate. The irony.
kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I don’t think many people know about sim-swap attacks, so they think people knowing their phone number is fine.
FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 2 days ago
This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection.
That’s the official explanation. A phone number is a nice way to attach a real world identity to the data (which of course is sold to advertisers/data brokers etc).
kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Again - which isn’t required.
moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It’s likely due to whatever discord server you’re trying to join.
This has changed, it gives you this popup whenever you make a new account, even if you haven’t joined any servers. I tried making an account for my brother a few months ago, and I saw this as well.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s because your data is orders of magnitude more valuable if it has enough information to identify you as a person.
They can’t sell it to data brokers for a lot of money if those data brokers can’t find any information to link that data with their existing profiles.
Surveillance capitalism 101, companies obtain the most value by enabling other corporations to spy on every detail of your life.
If you can’t use a service anonymously, without it being linked to your actual person, then you can either be okay with living with the panopticon, or don’t use the service.
Discord has been slowing rolling this out over the years. It started being offered as a “spam protection” feature and eventually it’ll be a requirement to have an account.
They depend on the masses of people who will trade all of their privacy in exchange for not having to learn how to use VoIP software, video streaming software or IM software.
Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
What the FUCK.
I immediately went to settings and, I guess at some point I’d already given these swine my phone number? Went to remove it and I’ve greeted by this wonderful toast message=
God I wish something was fully suitable as an easy discord replacement 😭 spacebar seems rad if it wasn’t super alpha. And as cool as element is, it just doesn’t have the same low bar to entry that discord has (not to mention group calls are jank as hell, when they work, and there’s no screen share yet tragically)…
jafffacakelemmy@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Just change your number to something like 07777777777. That will work for the UK.
penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
It doesn’t work for me because it asks for a code ):
Matombo@feddit.org 1 day ago
Year ofvElements/Matrix when?
denaggels@feddit.org 1 day ago
I really like using Element, but there are so many issues besides the not so intuitive account system, that deters the average user
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
So many niche games servers tho.
FTL: Faster Than Light - Multiverse (mod community) for example, like there is literally no replacement community.
moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
discord’s been doing this for a while, it’s really scummy
other companies that do this:
- twitter (even before muskrat bought it)
- probably a lot more
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It is a trade off vs scammers
thatradomguy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
There was a server I poked around in once that required members to provide phone number just to join. Seems very unethical considering all the bad things that can happen from identity theft or stalking… it’s not like mods are employees for Discord. They’re just random mofos. Why would I trust a stranger on the Internet of all places?
SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
The server owners cannot see your phone number. It’s just a way to keep bots and assholes out most of the time.
Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 1 day ago
The server owners can’t see your phone number. Discord allows you to set a minimum verification level for users in your server. The lowest is simply having a verified email on their account. The highest is a verified email, a few minutes old (so no brand new accounts), been in the server for a few minutes, and a verified phone number. It’s just a bot prevention thing, because spammers/scammers are a big issue on large Discord servers. Especially early in Discord’s history, it was a big issue where bots would raid a server and just totally shut it down with spam links. So Discord started allowing server owners to set minimum verification levels before users could interact and send messages.
Marmanvii@lemmy.one 2 days ago
What’s really annoying as well, is that if you try to remove your phone number from your account, your account will get blocked for “suspicious activity”, after doing the required captchas it will get unlocked but your phone number is still there, trying to remove it again will just lock your account again, how is that legal?
vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
For what it’s worth I literally just removed my phone number from my account after reading your comment and it did it no problem. Haven’t gotten any suspicious account alerts yet but if I get one I’ll come back and update.
ATDA@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Can we just go back to irc already?
truxnell@infosec.pub 2 days ago
If we had ircv3 specs that included reactions. etc we might be. I rolled a small group of IRC servers with a few selfhost people a year back and it was quite fun. Tbh IRC itself is still alive and well, it’s just not user friendly enough to get non-tech people over easily
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Which is the reason I don’t have a discord account. I just can’t be bothered.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I get discord mail sometimes telling me I have to log on urgently as accounts get deleted after a few years of inactivity.
philpo@feddit.org 1 day ago
It’s a shame that spacebar and revolt did not really take off so far.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
this is the first time I’ve heard of spacebar
philpo@feddit.org 16 hours ago
Yeah, that’s the problem - none has. Sadly I also only read about it here in a previous post about discord a few months ago.
Matombo@feddit.org 1 day ago
for me it wanted one after i added too many friends at once
it some agressive anti spam “ai” that more or less randomly decides if it wants a phone number or not
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
I mean, if you’re using Discord, then you’re probably not the kind of person to be bothered by this anyway.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I hope Mozilla launches the Firefox Relay phone masking soon…
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Oo looks cool
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I created an account without a phone number. What really anoys me is there focus on IP addresses. They apparently don’t realize IPs rotate.
deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 2 days ago
Seriously, you’re complaining now? The privacy apps have been blocking Discord for many years.
dwindling7373@feddit.it 2 days ago
The privacy apps have been blocking Discord for many years. The what?
deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 2 days ago
Things like Privacy Badger block Discord.
avieshek@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Just after Elon Musk’s twitter (𝕏) made it a norm~
Teppichbrand@feddit.org 1 day ago
Say the word!
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yikes, hopefully this one stays in beta.
dunes@feddit.org 1 day ago
It has been this way for some years.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I set up two accounts last week without phone number. A lot of people seem to forget that the web app and email signup still exists, there is no reason to ever download the app.
avieshek@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s already live for me, seems to be a gradual global rollout.
cryoistalline@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
I got locked out of my old discord account because I didn’t have a phone at the time
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The reason I don’t have a Google account.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 days ago
This might be because you’re on vpn. Try a public wifi at school, library, coffee shop or something.
Oberyn@lemmy.world 2 days ago
YMMV . Created my account using vpn , basicly never used it while not connected to it , not once I’ve gotten phone verification prompt
Dunno exact conditions for it to show up , kinda paranoid about it
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
I remember creating one on vpn as well. But I notice a lot of accounts nowadays don’t like vpn. Like Google or any social media won’t let you
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
They also sell that number, all your chat logs, voice calls and media to AI training companies.
Dont be a loser, dont use discord.
penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Sadly there are a lot of communities that are only on Discord.
redwattlebird@lemmings.world 2 days ago
And it’s so annoying! Bring back forums!
otacon239@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I would love to if all of the most helpful specialized communities didn’t all use it.
I can’t even get my friends or family to use Matrix/Element, let alone the masses.
Trust me, I want to make the full switch, but if I’m hanging out on my fancy open source server with no one on it, what’s the point?
I will agree that anything akin to Facebook or Xitter isn’t helping achieve anything, since they don’t provide communication that can’t be found elsewhere (social updates, memes, event invitations, etc), but for communities like this specifically, there’s just not many other places to go.
kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
having a hard time finding a good alternative for screen sharing in a voice call. recently deleted discord and me and my buddy moved to matrix (element) but the screen sharing is very laggy and it needs a more aggressive mic noise removal. we speedrun a singleplayer game together and use screen sharing for that. steam can do all this but the delay is unacceptable.
honestly I’m this close to going back to discord 🤏
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Im following matrix dev work very closely so im wondering if you have been trying the old call system (jitsi or 1:1 calls) or the new one (element call). the new one should work well for screensharing video but ofcourse you do have some level of compression artifacts. the element-desktop client should have it enabled by default since a few version ago. You can quickly test it out here without an account too call.element.io
For noise removal it just uses the standard webrtc noise filtering stack afaik which does suck, but i have it disabled and do that kind of audio filtering systemwide on my linux machine with easyeffects.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
I don’t actually know how good it is but another software that does screen sharing you might try is Jitsi
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Matrix sucks
I don’t really know what ever to use