Why do games like Minecraft require a launcher?

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨jonathanvmv8f@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

What does the launcher do with regard to the operation of the game that cannot be done within the actual game itself? Is it due to a technical limitation or simply there for the convenience of the players? Are there alternatives to such methods of starting the execution of games?

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ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It usually makes it easier to centralize authentication. But more importantly (from the company’s perspective), it gives the game producer a chance to upsell other products and micro-transaction content.

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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This.
  
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- s38b35M5@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Don’t forget that the game producer can now collect and sell data on their customers’ systems.
  
  With no privacy laws on the books in the USA, there’s literally nothing stopping them, and a lot of incentive to do it.
  
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  - lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    They can do that without a launcher LMAO
    
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- lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  upsell other products
  
  I don’t think I’ve seen games do that, not even to advertise other games from the same publisher/developer. But then, the only five games I’ve played with a launcher are three MMOs, Genshin, and Honkai Star Rail.
  
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bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Minecraft is special. The launcher sets up a bunch of Java stuff and other game configurations. And it downloads updates and handles authentication. Technically you don’t need it, but it makes it a little easier for the developers and the users. There are also third party launchers with additional functionality like downloading mods.

Other games often pretend they need that stuff when in reality they just want some more tracking that is not in the game itself.

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- Zonetrooper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Technically you don’t need it, but it makes it a little easier for the developers and the users.
  
  For that matter, if you poke around in some games’ files, you can find the actual game.exe and launch it directly from there, bypassing the launcher. You just bypass the authentication and compatibility checking as well.
  
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  - TachyonTele@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That, my friends, is also how you play games from the epic store. And how to bypass steam as well.
    
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  - lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    This also works with any Unity game which prefers to launch through a launcher.
    
    If it’s an online game, like an MMO, they might put your account on timeout if you keep playing some outdated version of the game, though.
    
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ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Managing updates, versions, mods, and settings can be done from a launcher instead of the game itself and it’s often easier that way. If you wanted to adjust mods in-game you’d need to restart the game for changes to take effect.

Before Steam became the universal launcher, lots of games had their own. Minecraft isn’t a Steam game so it comes with its own launcher.

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- Azzu@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  If you wanted to adjust mods in-game you’d need to restart the game for changes to take effect
  
  This completely depends on the game.
  
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  - SolOrion@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The only game I can think of that doesn’t actually require a restart is Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries. I’m sure there’s more, but that’s what I’ve encountered.
    
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Other than a handful of games where it does literally nothing but force you to sign in to something (such as Rockstar’s Social Club shit or the Xbox Live for Windows thing from years past) most of the ones I see having a launcher just for the one game are ones that let you adjust settings before starting, choose a renderer version to use (Vulkan, DX11, or DX12, etc), or, like as is with Minecraft, allows you to have a safe modded version kept separate from your vanilla game or to manage saves.

You can also, in most cases, bypass those launchers by just launching the preferred executable in the game’s installation directory.

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- takeheart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Ah yes, if you’ve ever had the problem of a game’s graphics not working properly but you can’t adjust the graphics because it requires you to launch the actual game and navigate the settings menu you will appreciate that. Most games store and read their settings in an external file and a launcher can provide a meaningful way to edit those. That being said there’s many launchers who actually don’t offer this feature and are just used to shove ads your way or track your behavior.
  
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dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
To answer your third question about Minecraft specifically, you absolutely can run the Java version of Minecraft independently of the launcher. Without authentication from the launcher, however, you will not be able to connect to Realms or indeed any multiplayer servers that have authentication enabled.

But for that reason, the Java version specifically of Minecraft is famously easy to pirate, provided you are fine with being limited to only playing locally or on pirate servers that have authentication disabled.

In the bad old days this was in fact the only way to play Minecraft in non-supported platforms (i.e. not Windows).

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hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The one big advantage I see with it is that you can have multiple versions of Minecraft installed at once, and launch whichever you like.

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theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
With minecraft, it allows you to select from different versions and modes of the game and set up your account.

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x00z@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s very annoying to self-update without a separate updater (Especially on Windows).

Another reason would be that it’s good to have some functionality separated, like authentication and mod installation.

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- GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  How does the updater get updated, though?
  
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  - NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    you kid, but there’s no shortage of steam games where steam (a launcher) updates the game’s launcher
    
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  - bss03@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    One executable updates the other and vice-versa. Like Robin Hood and Fryer Tuck defending one another.
    
    That’s far from the only approach, too.
    
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Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Patch management

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Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
specific games like Minecraft I think it’s nessicary, other games such as call of duty which insists on having one launcher manage all game installs I don’t think is.

Imagine trying to handle all the different minecraft installs from the main screen, you would need to launch Java, load a Minecraft game, load a profile, close the game, open the game with the new profile settings and then hope it launches. This setup is very helpful, but I agree most games it is not helpful at all

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Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Allow you to set graphics preferences before launching the game, so you don’t end up with a tiny 480p sized window on a 4K screen during an unskippable (and unrepeatable) first-launch cutscene

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- SolOrion@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I hate when games launch directly into a cutscene. Let me change my graphics, turn on subtitles, change the audio, etc.
  
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pepperprepper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
They do this and keep their top selling games exclusive to their platforms. Games like GTA have shown just how much money you can make off micro transactions. No company is going to just jump out of that market. They use their top games so they are more liley to get people to just have it installed. That way you install the launcher, put in your credit card, and you are only a click away from handing them some money.

There can be positive benefits though, auto updates, update news, community messaging or content.

But mostly so they can get the hardest part of selling done, a valid payment method input.

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- tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  What about games without microtx, like BG3
  
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  - pepperprepper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I googled a screenshot of the launcher, looks like they have a link to buy merchandise, digital upgrades, advertising more games by the company that you have not bought yet. Also links to submit submit a but, let’s them hopefully have less QA personal. Community link to help the longevity of the game for longer term sales.
    
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Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Because it’s coded like shit.

Minecraft is a fucking mess. 18 different products but 10 of them are just different platforms and the same game. All the authentication is different for the different versions too so if you have the Java one it doesnt work to login on the others.

Just shit software all around.

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_bcron@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I think the biggest thing is convenience. It’s a lot easier for the launcher to do some handshakes and check/update to current patch. Other way is client opening, client closing, patch applied, client opens yet again, that type of deal

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Boozilla@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Not sure about Minecraft, but sometimes the launcher is simply there to make configuration, startup options, parameters, profile selection, etc. a smoother experience for the user. You can do this kind of stuff without a dedicated launcher, but some software publishers prefer to divide things up this way.

It’s a dumb analogy, but I kind of think of it like restaurants. Some restaurants have a full wait staff with a maitre d, some have walk-up counter, some have a kiosk with a screen, etc.

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lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Sometimes updates require a game to be restarted. With a launcher it never needs to REstart, it will be started fresh afterwards anyway.

It’s also in general a good place to centralise account management (esp. if parts of the game would need to be reloaded if another account is logged in!)

Lastly, although this is more of a side-effect, but it gives a good place to shows recent news/posts of the company about their game to players, such as when there’ll be downtime, in a way that’s practically impossible for the players to miss.

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RedIce25@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Now I’m wondering, Minecraft released 6 years after Steam. Why isn’t Minecraft on Steam while it’s spinnoffs are?

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- ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Minecraft doesn’t need another distribution platform if players already know where to find it. So no point in giving Valve a cut.
  
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Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If this is peeving you by the way, you can use multimc to create a shortcut, even to join a server or world directly to skip the title screen entirely

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- xavier666@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  PSA: Prism Launcher is a fork of MultiMC but with more features
  
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Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Other answers in thread are good, but I like them because I don’t have to wait for a game to fully load if I misclick

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