I mean… basing measurement on representative objects IS the imperial system.
Makes more sense than the Imperial system
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Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
That is ALL measurement systems.
Metric is based on standard meters and kilograms and so forth. And, funny enough, imperial measurements are more or less always based on metric measurements (which are based on said references for metric measurements) anyway.
I still think it is annoying to have to learn and internalize multiple systems (even if “6 feet” is easier to remember than “about 1.8 meters”). But unless you are doing scientific computing (where some of the constants map well to metric when working with certain materials at certain temperatures and pressures), it really doesn’t matter.
All that matters is that everyone stay consistent. And before you say “Well, that is why you use metric”: This solver assumes kg/m. That solver assumes g/mm because it is generally used at a very different scale. And so forth. And that sick fuck insists on 3 space indents in all code.
mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Meter is defined as the distance travelled by light in vaccum in 1/299792458th of a second. Then kilogram is defined with a kibble balance. The problem with standaed objects is that it is not fundamental. If the standard decays, the measurements all turn wrong. It is important to associate theese to fundamental constants, which does not change and can be independently measured.
even if “6 feet” is easier to remember than “about 1.8 meters”
Would use 180 cm which is not as hard to remember, with more precision. Also why 6 feet specifically? 160cm becomes 5 and a quarter feet which is pretty messed. My argument here is bad because we are comparing magnitudes of units, which is useful in different scenarios. But i see no problem that is not fixed by dividibg or multiplying the current one by powers of ten and calling it centi, kilo, mega, micro, etc.
Nit just the scientific computing, but imperial system is harder to learn because there is no specific fashion in the units. How much inch is a foot and how much foot is a yard(?). Actually i don’t know thoose they change between 6 and 12 and maybe more different numbers. The thing you are talking about is watet’s volume, which can make water’s densitt a standard and measure densities of other fluids relative to water. But the conversion factor of 10 is the most advantageous thing which is also simple.
The solver assuming any unit is hilarious. Units must be always specified. You can’t take a measurement in terms of some units and then not say the units. There is no point of using exact same units(without scaling) just to be consistent. You are supposed to use different units for different scales.
And that sick fuck insists on 3 space indents in all code
That’s why I preffer tabs ;) You can have whatever number of space you want without annoying others. It will be consistent for different setups
smeg@feddit.uk 5 months ago
And before you say “Well, that is why you use metric”: This solver assumes kg/m^3. That solver assumes g/mm^3 because it is generally used at a very different scale. And that one is kg/cm^3.
Well, that is why you use SI units.
superkret@feddit.org 5 months ago
SI units are fun!
My car needs 7 liters of gas per 100 km.
7 liters / 100 km =
7 dm³ / 100 km =
0.007m³ / 100,000 m =
0.000007 m² =
0.07 mm²The question what this area represents is left as an exercise to the reader.
dwindling7373@feddit.it 5 months ago
The area of the base of o tube as long as the lenght of travel that would contain the volume of gasoline needed to travel said distance.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Go go gadget dong!
sushibowl@feddit.nl 5 months ago
The question what this area represents is left as an exercise to the reader.
what-if.xkcd.com/11/ is relevant.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I know this is a joke, but could help myself: you can’t always just cancel units like this.
It’s more like 0.007 m^3^(fuel burned) / 100,000 m(travelled)
Can’t really cancel those.
ech@lemm.ee 5 months ago
So when you’re kind of enthused about something but not, like, really psyched, you can say, “That sounds like a skeli-ton of fun.”
Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Not only make more sense, it avoid errors. Imperial system don’t even make difference between mass and weight. Some confusion in the imperial system has already cost NASA several space probes. Imperial units are non linear and aleatoric values without any sense, using the measures of bodyparts of an King in the past, obsolete in science, mathematic and architecture. Used in Airlines and nautics, almost by tradition
mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Oh, the date thing. I hate it because it conflicts with rest of the world too 05/06/2024 causes lot of confusion since we can’t even know which system we are using. Thanks it only happens online not locally in my country
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Even more annoying, because there’s a bunch of software with bad localisation where we sane DD/MM/YYYY and YYYY.MM.DD users are forced to see the abomination that is MM/DD/YYY and it leads to errors.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Yes, online it¡s better to write the month name to avoid confusion, because of 4 removed countries worldwide wich still use the imperial syste,
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I needed way to long to get the actual point… Geez I need to get my shit together
expatriado@lemmy.world 5 months ago
centikilogram? thats double prefix
bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Centiton, which is very funny.
This is the most in character dialogue I’ve seen in this meme
fushuan@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Centikilogram is 010^-2x10^3 = 10 grams, a skeleton is 10Kg though, they meant that a skeleton aka centi-ton is 10kg, which is a 1DKg, D meaning 10 and K meaning 10^3 of course. Scalling units can multiply with each other since they are just numbers in disguise.
kibiz0r@midwest.social 5 months ago
Skelepede
IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 5 months ago
The SI base unit is actually the kilogram (despite naming), a metric tonne is actually a megagram lol.
Anyhow, if the prefix-less naming matched the base unit, 10 kg would be a “decagram”. As it is, it’s 10,000× the base of the naming system, and theres no prefix on factors of 10 above 1000, so sadly there’s no way to name it neatly.
Edit: actually it looks the like the Greek for 10,000 is “myriad”, so it would be a myrigram. Dope!
Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I will use all the archaic measurement I want & you can’t stop me.
NutWrench@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Just “x10” with metric. With imperial, it’s usually “how many rods to a hogshead” or short tons and long tons or fathoms vs leagues.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 months ago
Who’s skeleton?
Venator@lemmy.nz 5 months ago
*skeletonnes
EleventhHour@lemmy.world 5 months ago
ahem… science, bitch
marcos@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Hum… You mean “deca”?
MBM@lemmings.world 5 months ago
1/100th of a ton = skele ton
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 months ago
How much is a Skelemeter?
marcos@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Oh, ok. Now I understood it.
superkret@feddit.org 5 months ago
no. A skeleton is 1/100 of a ton. A decaton would be 10 tons.
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 5 months ago
A decakilogram would be 10 kg though. But fuck, that’s quite an unwieldy word.
Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world 5 months ago
So wait, you’re telling me that a Skele-ton would be roughly 20,000KG?
h3mlocke@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Skelepede
Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 5 months ago
But a ton is not 1000 kg, that’s a tonne 🤓
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Speak French
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I see you.
I might pretend I didn’t. But I see you and I chuckled.
someguy3@lemmy.world 5 months ago
A metric ton would be more accurately called a Megagram.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I really want skelemeter to be a word.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It rolls off the tongue.
Skelemeter…
BluesF@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think he’s proposing a skele-ton which is 0.01 tons, (i.e. 10kg), not a skelegram which is 10,000g. A skele-gram in this case would be 0.01g.
someguy3@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Well ton is based on a prefix, so a prefix to that is a double prefix. Skelemegagram in that case.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world 5 months ago
An obsolete 10,000 prefix already exits (“myria-”) but Jesse’s prefix is a bit snappier.
TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Motion to bring “lakh” to the Westen world.
IllNess@infosec.pub 5 months ago
No no no no!
Skelegram is my startup that sends skeletons to people to their email address or physical address.
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I thought it was a new social media platform focused on pictures of skeletons.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is my biggest complaint about SI, kg being the base mass unit with a heckin’ prefix.
Bring back the grave 🥲