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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yeah but why did they need to get political about it?/s

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    • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      $$$

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Oh how right/wrong they were… 😮

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    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      At that level of co2 production, they were probably right. What they couldn’t predict is that co2 production would rise so dramatically with automobiles and industry in the decade after that. They were at 7 billion tons a year then. We are over 36 billion tons a year now, over 5 times as much. That has clearly expedited the effects on the climate.

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      • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That’s so cool to know! Oh wait I mean hot, and also not, well anyway thanks for sharing:-P.

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      • EddyBot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        What they couldn’t predict is that co2 production would rise so dramatically

        interestingly enough in the early 1900 there were more electric cars than ICEs in north america

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That was peobably fairly accurate at that time.

    Look at the historical data here:

    ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions

    BTW, the large recent drop in co2 emissions, covid.

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    • xthexder@l.sw0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “large”… If only. Barely a drop in the bucket.

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    • i_am_hiding@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I never thought I’d say this, but looks like we need more pandemics!

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      • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        This is actually a thought that some climate deniers have. “Climate change is a hoax to control you, covid was the trial run”.

        Unsurprisingly, the people who say that publicly tend to be funded by oil.

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Good news! We’re continuing to shit on our biodiversity safety net.

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      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Seems like legally requiring hybrid work benefits would get us significantly closer to those goals

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    • Dippy@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Whenever I think about this article, I think about how they could not have possibly known how emissions would grow, and they were perfectly reasonable to frame it this way. And if things stayed at that rate, we would have been able to do something about it so easily when we started getting worried

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s a good thing someone noticed this back then, and the world dumped the coal industry. Imagine how fucked we’d be now if this was completely ignored.

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    While kicking The can down the road, you come across a sign.

    BRIDGE OUT AHEAD

    What do you do?

    1. Continue kicking the can, I’m sure it’ll be fine.
    2. I don’t believe in bridges.
    3. Even if God let the bridge collapse, which he wouldn’t, I’ll go to heaven if I fall and die, so who cares?
    4. Pick up the can and go find a dumpster.
    5. There’s squirrels in my pants! Jump to safety!
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    • CoolMatt@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes, all of that. In that order.

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  • Cossty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Woke. Cancel them. Get politics out of my newspapers.

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    • RQG@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They have already been canceled.

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  • WrenFeather@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Aren’t there still people trying to suggest that we still don’t know if climate change is scientifically understood/proven?

    This is crazy that we knew about this so long ago!

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    • jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Not seriously, no. Are there people lying in order to betray their entire species for absolutely no benefit? Yes.

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      • coffee_whatever@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No benefit? No, of course not. But for more money to the shareholders of the oil and coal companies which some politicians either are or get payed by. OF COURSE! They will do it gladly with a smile.

        Renewables aren’t funded anything close to what governments of any country spend on oil and coal companies, and that’s for the benefit of the very few people who own them.

        Didn’t we already figure out the whole climate change story way back long ago? And the only reason why we didn’t do anything about it were studies funded by the oil industry so that they absolutely have to show there was “no link” between our CO2 emissions and the global temperature? Because I’m pretty sure that’s the story.

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    • PrimeMinisterKeyes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Solé’s fantastic and extremely recommendable book “Phase Transitions” covers this as well. Quoting Janssen et al.: “even when the group is faced with negative results, members may not suggest abandoning an earlier course of action, since this might break the existing unanimity.”
      “More generally, the underlying problem here is why complex societies might fail to adapt […]. Even if there is some social perception of risk, short-term thinking often prevails when facing long-term vulnerabilities. Such undesirable behavior is often favored by a combination of incomplete understanding of the problem, together with the misleading view that all changes are reversible.”

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      • kureta@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        misleading view that all changes are reversible

        That is chilling.

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  • someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because they never account for exponential consumption growth. It was “a few centuries” at current consumption.

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The thing that really gets me about these ignorant fuckers is it’s not just the indisputable math, it’s that we’ve observed the proof not just in our ecosystem, but on Venus. You can’t even pretend we don’t know how these systems work in at least a general sense.

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  • eleitl@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    To be fair, in 1912 it was not at all obvious at which scale humanity started to burn everything after 1950.

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  • AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Only one century has passed since then, so we’re still good. It’s pollutin’ time!

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    • zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Idk but captain planet popped up in my head when I read the last sentence.

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  • geissi@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And this is when the topic was published by a newspaper.
    If memory serves, the fist scientific publications were from the 1880s.

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That may end up being correct. The models predicting the most catastrophic effects are often showing that for 2100, which would be nearly 200 years from the publish date.

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      And my friends and family wonder why I’m not having kids. I’m sure eager to bring new life in right before one of the most cataclysmic events of humanity, that’s for sure.

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    • frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It said a few centuries, not a couple.

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      • noxy@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        what’s the difference?

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  • micnd90@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What’s funny about that newspaper excerpt is that it is word-for-word plagiarized from a picture caption in earlier article in Popular Mechanics, March 1912

    Image

    The reporter for Rodnen and Otamatea Times must’ve been on tight deadlines!

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    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s Rodney, the district just north of Auckland in New Zealand

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  • lenuup@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    just could not imagine the scale at which human civilization would escalate. Apart from that, spot on.

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s like 30 years after the concept was first understood. Even now the concept is downplayed so people don’t reject it outright

      And even today, almost no one truly understands the implications of exponential growth… I’d give them full marks

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  • Armand1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Chat, is this real?

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    • Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Looks like it.
      www.usatoday.com/story/news/…/8124455002/

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  • Actionschnils@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The German Federal Public Radio (Deutschland Funk) has a Radio Documentary Series, about particular historical Topics called “Der Rest ist Geschichte”. Mostly academic experts explain the topics from the academic view for “common” people. They made a interesting one about the History of the Knowledge about the climate crisis.

    Aus der Dlf App | Der Rest ist Geschichte | Klima und Krise – Seit wann wir von der Erderwärmung wissen …deutschlandradio.de/dlf-audiothek-audio-teilen.h…

    Afaik there is no English version :<

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  • EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    1&1/10th is indeed a very few centuries.

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    • Gumus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Technically correct is the best kind of correct.

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  • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    WARKWORTH was Wokewarth, am I right?

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  • Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    More like decades

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    • Trollception@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Many many decades have past since 1912 and we are still here.

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  • filcuk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Why did they not print the whole of ‘Affecting’ on a new line, that’s bothering me

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    • gmgmgm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Liang hadn’t made his hyphenation algorithm yet :(

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Humanity: Hold my pint.

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  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Gramma was a toddler.

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