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Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • anyhow2503@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is there a source for these haughty, cackling archeologists making fun of hairdressers or is that just to manufacture some kind of underdog victory scenario?

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Stephens

      Meme is dramaticised of course.

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      • pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s really funny

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    • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Option number 2

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    • imgcat@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The latter. “everybody clapped” clickbait.

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    • androogee@midwest.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you want an actual example of a haughty, cackling asshole ignoring a woman’s expertise, this clip of Joe Rogan will make your blood boil

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      • MrShankles@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        a haughty, cackling asshole ignoring a woman’s expertise

        Boy howdy, that’s a spot-on description. Never listened to him because I expected it to be trash; but I didn’t realize the situation was so dire

        Motherfucker leans into sensationalism and shock-value, because he’ll be forgotten as soon as he shuts the fuck up—and of course he won’t have any useful skills to hold a job with real value afterward. Fucking cowardly shits, afraid to work on something of substance when the fame/infamy runs dry

        So yeah, it indeed made my blood boil a little lol. Wish I could say it was mostly pity for being so… dumb? But nah, that’s a person acting like garbage and should be treated as such (until proven otherwise)

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    • TheFriar@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also, why does that have to be the only solution? There were wet things that turned harder when they dried back then, too.

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  • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I love this story because just imagine the setup.

    All the top world archaeologists are in the biggest archaeology summit trying to figure this out. The queer son of the most famous archaeologist was visiting because his dad was trying to make him a real man and follow science instead of fashion. He takes a look at the poorly design slides being project and makes a snarky remark. “they’re definitely sewed 💀😭💅”. But everyone made fun of him so he took it personally. The next day he came back with an exact replica of the hair style sewed on his bestie’s hair. In awe, everyone got up and clapped. The kid’s name? Albert fucking Einstein.

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  • caboose2006@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Imagine asking a subject matter expert. What a concept!

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    • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And then discounting their opinion.

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      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        As an IT guy, a chef, and a jack of all trades and master of few, that happens far more often than I would care to admit. I have literally had people tell me, "Well, yes you know more about [blank} than anyone I’ve ever met, but your analysis doesn’t {make line go up] so it must be wrong, because [line must always go up.}

        Fucking Jack Welsh. I wish I could build a time machine and shoot that shortsighted asshole between the eyes just before he laid off his first GM employee in the name of imaginary profit.

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      • Klear@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yup, that’s the imaginary part of the story.

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      • caboose2006@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s how you get the bonus points as an uptight academic!

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      • whoreticulture@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Let’s be real, probably her opinion.

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  • usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Same vibes as this video with Adam Savage. Apparently this piece of armour was a big mystery with tons of different drawings etc trying to place it as horse armour when Adam almost immediately correctly identifies it when first looking at it.

    This is the power of diverse experience where experts can have a blind spot that’s easily solved by others that have a different perspective.

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    • someguy3@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tldw crouch protector, and the historians did know that.

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      • Kiosade@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well it took them 50 years to figure out, whereas Adam guessed it immediately.

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  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    www.youtube.com/@jntvstp

    that’s her

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  • Shirasho@lemmings.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is why you go to subject matter experts.

    /Software development rant

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    • Philharmonic3@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      /fucking everything rant. Scholars and management alike are terrible at this

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      • qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        As others replies have said, it seems that her expertise was welcomed in the community.

        Having spent my fair share of time in grad school, my experience with the arrogant scholar trope is…not exactly what this meme suggests. Academics certainly can have strongly held beliefs, but often are very good at gauging their own certainty. If a professor is lamenting that data taken around 3:17pm always looks bad, and the janitor says “well the electric tram goes by around then” — well, I have never met a professor or postdoc who wouldn’t take that very seriously.

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  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Some of the hairstyles by Janet Stevens.

    There’s a video that shows more, but there’re advertisements and it’s irritating.

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  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So wigs, not mittens.

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    • cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve seen something like this referenced a couple times now, what is it?

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      • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Answering that question comes with a nobel price attached i presume.

        What we know is this:

        They are made during roman times, They are found wherever the roman empire stretched and there not considered very rare

        Thats about it.

        The notable theories are

        • as a weird currency

        • well known blacksmith “exam”

        • for knitting, apparently it has been demonstrated that you can use them to knit in practice but the art of knitting is thought to originate much later in history.

        My money is now on wig building tools.

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      • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron

        Roman dodecahedra date from the 2nd to 4th centuries AD and their purpose remains unknown. They rarely show signs of wear, and do not have any inscribed numbers or letters.

        Emphasis mine.

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      • SolacefromSilence@fedia.io ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is after step one, cut a hole in the box.

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    GLAM = Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums

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  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    …am I missing something? These are stone. They’re carved. How did they know these were real styles used with people, and not fantastical for the statues?

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    • UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wouldn’t fit with the artistical trends of the times… It’s not a bad hypothesis, but if that was a trend the hair is not the only feature that could be imagined.

      Now I can’t stop picturing archeologists unearthing an anime bust.

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      • drbluefall@toast.ooo ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Future archeologists digging up statues of 2B -

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I guess there had to be a way to have fake-ass hair extensions before plastic was invented.

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    • weirdEd@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I read that as “Ass-hair extensions”

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      • Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Xkcd is always and forever relevant

        xkcd.com/37/

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  • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Aren’t weaves basically sewn in?

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  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How do you sew hair?

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    • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Haven’t black women been doing this forever? My coworkers talk about sew-in weaves and shit all the time.

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    • match@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      loops

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      • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That sounds incredibly tedious for anyone with hair shorter than “eligible to be donated to replace a horse tail”

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      • jherazob@beehaw.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • match@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    She also has a YouTube channel!

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    • Gloomy@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ams wrote paper about it.

      isidore.co/…/Stephens - 2008 - Ancient Roman hair…

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  • Gorillatactics@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why werent they consulting hairdresser in the first place? They can’t be experts because they’re not academics? is that the reasoning?

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    • imgcat@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s made up, like facebook clickbait. Archeologists are not idiots.

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      • 7bicycles@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Honestly I’m swallowing this wholesale if it happened until like the early 90s or something. Maybe even later. To think of roman hairdressing styles as entirely an archeological question and never one where you might ask a hairdresser seems pretty par for the course for academia

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  • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You post this and let us wonder how this might actually work without any pictures of the replicas??? :O

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  • D61@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cross disciplinary skills for the win yo!

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  • Nakoichi@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    lmao I didn’t get past the first sentence before I knew it was sewn/braided

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