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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • ringwraithfish@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What a wonderful rabbit hole to go down. My takeaways are it could possibly be used for knitting, but traditional spool knitting that the Grandma uses in the video doesn’t show up in history until the 1500s. If the Romans did use it for gloves then knitting has been around much longer than we have evidence of or they were using a different method with the dodecahedron.

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think I also read these were usually found with treasures and with minimal or no wear, so there isn’t any evidence they were used for anything.

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      • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The best suggested explanation IMO is that it’s a way for blacksmiths to demonstrate their skill.

        “lol stupid scientists don’t know what knitting is” I would file under “actively anti-intellectual”.

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  • FaceDeer@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Except that's probably not what they're for, I saw a video recently (I think it was this one) that went into detail about the reasons why it doesn't make much sense for these to be a knitting tool.

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    • Rooskie91@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s a lesson here about the differences between history and a good historical narrative, but that’s the lesson of most history and no one ever listens to it.

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      • daltotron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There’s a lesson here about the differences between history and a good historical narrative, but that’s the lesson of most history and no one ever listens to it.

        There’s a lesson here about the differences between history and a good historical narrative, but that’s the lesson of most history and no one ever listens to it.

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    • gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      First and foremost: knitting wasn’t invented until centuries later.

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      • Entropywins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I hope this is the next episode of hardcore history. I could use 30 hours of Dan Carlin context on knitting…

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    • Lightfire228@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Decoding the Unknown (also by Simon Whistler) did a video on these as well

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    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What’s up with the narrator? He’s got like 20 big channels he reads for. Are the channels connected and run by the same group, or does he host for a bunch of independent channels?

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      • Lightfire228@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m pretty sure he maintains the YT channels themselves, but he has a host of writers who write his scripts

        The two Channels / Podcasts I follow are DecodingtheUnknown (deep dives into ubsolved mysteries and paranormal debunks) and the Casual Criminalist (true crime)

        For both, he does a cold read, and often interjects with his own stories and theories

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      • FaceDeer@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think he's just snowballed in popularity over the years because he's good at reading these scripts in a way that sounds both smart and fun. The different channels focus on different styles and subject areas, letting you pick and choose what kind of thing you're interested in.

        I rather like his "Decoding the Unknown" channel, where he gets scripts debunking various paranormal or otherwise mysterious events and he reads them for the first time as it's being recorded, taking lots of opportunities to interject his own theories and speculation and just generally rag on the concept of the paranormal as he goes.

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  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s a d12. Clearly, the Romans were using it to play D&D.

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    • MeatPilot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I cast fear on Julius Caesar!

      Uh oh, Julius Ceasar’s only path is in range of all the members of Senate. So they each member gets one attack of opportunity.

      Go ahead and roll 60 decohedrean’s to hit.

      Looks like 23 hit!

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    • brisk@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/…/100008377

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  • Num10ck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    maybe its for measuring how much pasta you need to boil

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    • ma11en@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s no horse on it, silly!

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      • dm_me_your_boobs@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I understood that reference

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    • halvar@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      how much pasta you need to knit a toga or some shit

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    • lauha@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe it is a knitting-pastaing-horsing multitool

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  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Last time one of these threads popped up, I saw someone suggest that it might have been a holder for some of those bottles with pointed bottoms the Romans had, don’t remember the name. I’m not sure if this is a hypothesis with any level of acceptance, but it feels like it could be plausible just from looking at the thing, having different sized holes would allow different sizes of bottle to fit, and you’d want feet for each possible side that it could be resting on, which would explain the prongs.

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    • BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      These devices are rather small and most amphora seem to be much larger. The shape of amphora helped with shipping, so they were typucally larger than a device that can fit in your hand.

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    • PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not sure if this is a hypothesis with any level of acceptance

      Unless an actual record is found describing what they were used for, it’s all just guesses anyway.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      those bottles with pointed bottoms the Romans had, don’t remember the name.

      Amphora

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  • MonkderDritte@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What do you think they used those things for?

    Image

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    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Future archeologists: we believe these were to provide a form of transportation for their miniature gods, as the large humans honored the devices with novel patterns.

      Reality: Image

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    • coaxil@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Spinny boi

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  • Zozano@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a girth measurer.

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    • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      By the looks of it, the Romans were size queens and kings. The frescos and mosaics of Pompeii support that theory.

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    • Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Grandma knows how to use it.

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  • TootSweet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My mother got really interested in these things a while ago. I think she mostly buys into the glove-knitting theory. Whatever the case, I 3D printed her a model of one and it’s sitting on the mantle over her fireplace.

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    • drolex@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Archaeologists in 2000 years will be puzzled again. “Plastic dodecahedra found near broken mantelpieces, what could it be used for? Anyway I made one out of technetium for my grandma”

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      • nxdefiant@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “It was probably either religious in nature, or used for deciding when to put seeds in the ground”

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      • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        possibly used to start the primal source of heat called fire

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    • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I 3D printed her a model of one and it’s sitting on the mantle over her fireplace.

      That kinda hints to it not being very useful then…

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  • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Grandma’s are the best

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Grandma is are indeed

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      • Moghul@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Grandma has are the best, surely.

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  • whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You put fossils in them dude

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    • Generous1146@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Dang it, someone thought of it already

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  • stringere@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Image

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  • jlow@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Possible Ritual Use™ 😸

    Love these, though I’ll never remember the name or how to write it …

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    • Shareni@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Source: it was revealed to me in a dream

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  • PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    To me it looks like something you’d use to easily make a Monkey Fist for throwing line to/from a pier.

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  • ns1@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I just assumed it was one of these www.voting.ukscientists.com/penrose.html

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  • Mango@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a ghastly that ran out of gas.

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  • dumbass@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s just a papyrus weight

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