Submitted 13 hours ago by HiroK@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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the left image is of a native port recompiled for PC, and the right one is a simulator being developed to run Switch 2 games
Knowing Nintendo, we’re gonna see the most fucked up respond from them to this fucked up AI shit.
And i’m running out of popcorn.
They’ll just double the size of their legal department and continue on their merry, DMCA-fuelled way.
DMCA works only where the platform cares about. Eden devs in example have their own repository on their on site. They don’t care about the DMCA claims. And if Nintendo can’t prove in court, they cannot do anything about it. I expect more and more devs go their own way too, if this trend is continuing.
to this fucked up AI shit
In case you didn’t know, this is not just “one thing” going on and not everything is Ai shit. The native ports are most likely supported heavily by Ai, but the emulators was done before Ai was a thing. They just extend this to the Switch 2 hardware, which is very similar to Switch 1. Since the Switch 2 can be jailbroken they have access to everything they need. I can’t say if every emulator developer is against Ai too, but not everything is at least vibe coded shit.
Every current Switch 2 emulator I’ve seen is vibe coded. Yes they are built on existing Switch 1 emulator code, but the Switch 2 parts are all AI generated
I for one am very happy about this because OOT is one of my favorite games of all time and I really want to play the remake but I don’t have a Switch 2, and I really don’t want to fork over another $500+ on top of the thousands I’ve spent on the gaming hardware I already have just to play this, and maybe a handful of other Nintendo titles.
As a huge fan of OoT, having played it since release and even been part of reverse engineering efforts early on for file format discovery and such on the original N64 rom (HylianToolbox was a mod tool that was brand new back then), I have been pretty disappointed with the remake.
There are certainly elements I like, such as improved graphics quality on par with other realistic looking AAA games from about 10 years ago, but I am finding all of Nintendo’s changes pointless and frustrating.
An example is in the Deku Tree. The 23 is number 1 Deku Scrubs. In the original, they were spaced out, and it was pretty intuitive to the player that the order is middle, right, left. Then the final Deku Scrub would tell you about Queen Gohma, ending with “Sorry Queenie.”
In the remake, the three scrubs are way closer together, and they have spotlights on them that flash in order from left to right. When defeated, the final Deku Scrub tells you something about “Dark Gohma” and says “Sorry Dark One,” or something like that, and then a new dialogue line is added in small letters: “But not really though.” Why? The original encounter was already fine, what on earth is the point of this change? It completely changes the context of the encounter.
There are hand-holding elements literally every inch if the screen. Navi is worse, and they added more places for Kaepora to appear. This, combined with the earlier mentioned change to the Deku Scrubs encounter, it makes me feel like Nintendo is afraid of letting the player explore. Which is baffling considering OoT already was piss easy.
Also, there are loading screens, which the original game did not have, and Aonuma really wanted to minimize during the gameplay reveal. They are pretty disruptive to the pacing of playing the game. Especially compared to the original, that was so good at scene transitions that most players dont even notice the original game changes levels in the tunnl between Mido in Kokiri Forest and the Great Deku tree in the original game, even during the cutscene that Navi flies through that tunnel. Some people may know it because emulators early on struggled at that part and have a stutter when that happens, but on original hardware at 20 fps it was not noticeable.
OoT is tied for my favourite Zelda, although I can’t claim to be involved in reverse engineering. Didn’t share any of your criticisms so far and loving the remake; it’s brilliant.
Just admit you wanted to pirate it.
I thought they just did.
If Nintendo ported the game to PC I would gladly pay for it.
This for me, but with the new Fire Emblem. I’ve played almost every game in the series. But I can’t justify $500 for a console for a single game, then pay whatever the going cost is now for the game ($60-80?), and then have all the inevitable DLC that actually raises the cost of the game to somewhere between $140-160 (most FE games since 3DS have DLC that nearly double the price of the game).
Oh, and if I pay $500 for that console, I have to pay a subscription fee if I do want to use internet features.
I hate Nintendo for their corporate practices, but at least up through the Switch, they actually make good games. And when people complain about their high price games, when you buy physical, that also means you can sell your games and get most of your money back from them. It’s the attacks on fan projects, the DMCAs, the DLC, and paid internet subscription that made me lose any love for them. Almost every older Nintendo console was worth it, but not now (I had a Wii U, lmao). It’s also incredibly frustrating in this day and age to be locked to a console when I might want to play things elsewhere.
I just want to play it with mods so I can fix those faces
Nintendo doesn’t deserve money at this point. Its either nostalgia bait remakes or garbage new Pokémon game
Who the fuck can afford a switch 2 right now
Fuck nintendo
I am backing up emulators, roms and recomp tools as long as they are available to the public.
Miyamoto-san is gonna be so pissed.
Reminds me of Napster in a way.
So does the decompiled one work yet? I feel like i woildve seen more on this if it did. I will absolutely play it this way once it happens.
The NX2 decomp is currently inferior to the emulators. Fritchii fork of Lichii which is a fork of Eglantine which is a fork of Eden. I think? My head hurts. Lmao. What’s better or not changes every 6 hours.
I tried Fritchii last night after work and it’s playable now. The only graphical bug I noticed was some corrupted text box background texture when an NPC is emphasizing something like the Demy Tree boss door combination 2-3-1. Snafer stutter and pretty demanding on hardware but I usually stayed above 30FPS in the more graphically intensive areas. Indoors was usually 60fps. Fritchii can cap to 30 if the variable frame rate annoys you.
12th gen core i5 / Radeon 9070XT. I ran Fritchii through Faugus Launcher / Proton-GE because no Linux build.
Video cutscenes desync audio on Radeon cards in all forks I’ve tried so far.
The NX2 decomp is currently inferior to the slopulators.
Depends on what you compare. The code quality and documentation itself is probably better. In the long run, this is more important. But I’m not against for the short term win with slop too. I need both.
It works great but you need a very powerful computer. Was playing lots yesterday.
I’ve heard several reports that it does! I’m leaving the afternoon free today so I can try to set it up myself.
I doubt it. I’ve recently checked whether the Tekken 6 recomp/port for PC was any good, but framerates are abysmal, it’s still effectively an emulated game.
nullspace@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
It’s a shame the company that isn’t peddling AI is the target of this, but also fuck Nintendo and their $10 upgrades for Switch 1 games which is the sole reason I didn’t buy a Switch 2.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 hours ago
And their 90€ 6/10 Mario Kart.