The PGA bans shorts and the LPGA's dress code doesn't. There's more to it (why are the dress codes this way, historically?) but that's a simple answer to your question.
Why do women in golf wear those short/skirt things while the men wear pants?
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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celeste@kbin.earth 3 weeks ago
KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fun fact Augusta national which is home to the Masters tournament didn’t allow its first b African American as a member until 1990 and the first woman until 2012
credo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think it’s BS, and the primary reason I don’t play in the PGA.
neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
They’re called skorts. They’re simultaneously useless, goofy-looking, playful and ridiculously fun to wear.
Everybody should try on them at least once.
daggermoon@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
They should make skorts for men.
neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
There are no gender requirements for skorts. You can just buy them and wear them.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because wearing an inflatable dinosaur costume would interfere with their range of motion.
the_q@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The patriarchy… Seriously.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
A lot of golf courses used to be mens only, and the ones who did let women on the field had strict dress codes. Going as far back to Victorian times women had to have specific Golf dresses, corsets, crinolines, bustles, and multiple petticoats.
So a lot of it is based on social mores surrounding both class and sex. Even after dress codes loosened in the modern age, the culture of golf tends to be immersed in the social normative of the upper class.
Personally I actually think class has more to do with it than sexism in general. For example the first professional woman to play golf in slacks was in 1933, while the first black professional golfer was allowed in the PGA in 1967.
Then again the dynamics between social norms in sex and class are dynamic and inseparable.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
I feel like if all the world’s gold course and clubs burned to the ground overnight and were never rebuilt that there would be negligible impact on humanity.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
imagine if it was all turned into botanical gardens
grue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Personally I actually think class has more to do with it than sexism in general. For example the first professional woman to play golf in slacks was in 1933, while the first black professional golfer was allowed in the PGA in 1967.
It’s weird that you keep saying only “class” when you mean both class and race. Yes, they’re correlated, but they’re not the same and both really are at play here.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
It’s weird that you keep saying only “class” when you mean both class and race.
Up until very recent history class and race were inseparable constructs. Even now you could legitimately argue that even the wealthiest black members of society are not truly part of the ruling class in western society.
During the time periods and activities we were discussing assuming that race is part of class is perfectly reasonable. Specifically when it comes to dress codes class is going to be more of the focus.
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Cause they won’t let the men wear skirts too the sexists.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because old men make the rules on most golf courses.
Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It used to be men in skirts and the women stayed home.
DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I see what you did that. Nicely done.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sex.
It sells.
OfCourseNot@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
What are you talking about? Many women wear pants, but they have more options so some of them wear skirts ,or shorts, or 'skorts'... men don't wear anything but pants because they will lose every sponsor in a matter of minutes. Somehow men having fewer options than women/been told what to wear is men's fault and patriarchy or whatever, idk. Kinda ironic given that, iirc, it was invented in Scotland.
velma@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Somehow men having fewer options than women/been told what to wear is men’s fault and patriarchy or whatever, idk.
The only reason women are allowed to wear pants now is because we demanded it.
It used to be illegal for women to wear pants. Take a wild guess as to who were the ones to make those laws.
OfCourseNot@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
The only reason women are allowed to wear pants now is because we demanded it.
Many women are still not allowed to wear pants. Also, bit of a tangent, but is that like an 'anti-royal we' or are you old as fuck?
Take a wild guess as to who were the ones to make those laws.
I don't have to guess, I have relation with people from cultures where it's not acceptable yet for women to wear whatever they want. It is enforced by their whole community, not only men, and it, the community, also imposes strict rules on how to live for men too.
I didn't mean it in the sense that there's no sexism anymore, because there absolutely is. But every time I heard, or read, someone using the word 'patriarchy' is to spout some culture-war nonsense that doesn't help fight sexism at all, quite the opposite—if it has any effect is pushing boys and young men (and some girls and women) that don't know any better into the arms of conservatism. These lads are not your oppressors, and they have no more say than you or me into how society works, but if you treat them as if they were your enemy many of them will eventually become your enemy.
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I mean golf is almost entirely just a rich Old white man’s game.
They’ve deigned to allow other leagues to happen, but “damnit if women are gonna play, they have to be pleasing to the eye”.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Men wear golf shorts to golf all the time. The fit is generally looser, just like the golf polos, though.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Jesus Christ, Barry! You’re 79 years old! Yes, your balls hang out the bottom of your shorts! Now put 'em away before someone tries to see if they can get a birdie!”
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Whack! pained moleman noises
Astronut@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Why do women golf at all? Why do men golf? Why do people chase a ball around a pasture for entertainment? Why would anyone even watch that shit at all?
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Because people like things you don’t like.
I’m sure there’s plenty of people who think your preferred pastime is a complete waste too.
Astronut@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
That’s probably true! I don’t like much of anything. Hell, I don’t even like people!
Malica@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Misogyny
daggermoon@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
The men should wear the short skirts too. I volunteer to be first. I’ve never played golf though.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Same with tennis. Why do women have to wear short skirts and moan when hitting the ball… Because it’s regulations were made by nasty old men and for women to progress they have to moan and look hot, otherwise these old men will make sure they won’t have a career.
datavoid@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Fyi the men are also moaning
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because they picked it out that morning.
slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Male gaze. Much like volleyball.
Patnou@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe I guess I am sarcastic but a female using a club to hit a ball. Does not really draw my engine up. Maybe it is the whole club hitting a ball thing.
daggermoon@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Some males want to wear the skirts too.
velma@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
That’s the beautiful part - men can wear skirts whenever they want, too.