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Why do women in golf wear those short/skirt things while the men wear pants?

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Patnou@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Male gaze. Much like volleyball.

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    • Patnou@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Maybe I guess I am sarcastic but a female using a club to hit a ball. Does not really draw my engine up. Maybe it is the whole club hitting a ball thing.

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    • daggermoon@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Some males want to wear the skirts too.

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      • velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That’s the beautiful part - men can wear skirts whenever they want, too.

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  • celeste@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The PGA bans shorts and the LPGA's dress code doesn't. There's more to it (why are the dress codes this way, historically?) but that's a simple answer to your question.

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    • KC_Royalz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Fun fact Augusta national which is home to the Masters tournament didn’t allow its first b African American as a member until 1990 and the first woman until 2012

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      • Papergeist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That some kinda mexican dish?

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    • credo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I think it’s BS, and the primary reason I don’t play in the PGA.

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  • neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They’re called skorts. They’re simultaneously useless, goofy-looking, playful and ridiculously fun to wear.

    Everybody should try on them at least once.

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    • daggermoon@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They should make skorts for men.

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      • neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        There are no gender requirements for skorts. You can just buy them and wear them.

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  • oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean golf is almost entirely just a rich Old white man’s game.

    They’ve deigned to allow other leagues to happen, but “damnit if women are gonna play, they have to be pleasing to the eye”.

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  • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Because wearing an inflatable dinosaur costume would interfere with their range of motion.

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  • Sharkticon@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Cause they won’t let the men wear skirts too the sexists.

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  • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Because old men make the rules on most golf courses.

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  • the_q@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The patriarchy… Seriously.

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  • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    A lot of golf courses used to be mens only, and the ones who did let women on the field had strict dress codes. Going as far back to Victorian times women had to have specific Golf dresses, corsets, crinolines, bustles, and multiple petticoats.

    So a lot of it is based on social mores surrounding both class and sex. Even after dress codes loosened in the modern age, the culture of golf tends to be immersed in the social normative of the upper class.

    Personally I actually think class has more to do with it than sexism in general. For example the first professional woman to play golf in slacks was in 1933, while the first black professional golfer was allowed in the PGA in 1967.

    Then again the dynamics between social norms in sex and class are dynamic and inseparable.

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    • ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I feel like if all the world’s gold course and clubs burned to the ground overnight and were never rebuilt that there would be negligible impact on humanity.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Personally I actually think class has more to do with it than sexism in general. For example the first professional woman to play golf in slacks was in 1933, while the first black professional golfer was allowed in the PGA in 1967.

      It’s weird that you keep saying only “class” when you mean both class and race. Yes, they’re correlated, but they’re not the same and both really are at play here.

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      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s weird that you keep saying only “class” when you mean both class and race.

        Up until very recent history class and race were inseparable constructs. Even now you could legitimately argue that even the wealthiest black members of society are not truly part of the ruling class in western society.

        During the time periods and activities we were discussing assuming that race is part of class is perfectly reasonable. Specifically when it comes to dress codes class is going to be more of the focus.

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  • Archimedes@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It used to be men in skirts and the women stayed home.

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    • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I see what you did that. Nicely done.

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  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sex.

    It sells.

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  • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Men wear golf shorts to golf all the time. The fit is generally looser, just like the golf polos, though.

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    • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      “Jesus Christ, Barry! You’re 79 years old! Yes, your balls hang out the bottom of your shorts! Now put 'em away before someone tries to see if they can get a birdie!”

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Whack! pained moleman noises

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  • OfCourseNot@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    What are you talking about? Many women wear pants, but they have more options so some of them wear skirts ,or shorts, or 'skorts'... men don't wear anything but pants because they will lose every sponsor in a matter of minutes. Somehow men having fewer options than women/been told what to wear is men's fault and patriarchy or whatever, idk. Kinda ironic given that, iirc, it was invented in Scotland.

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    • velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Somehow men having fewer options than women/been told what to wear is men’s fault and patriarchy or whatever, idk.

      The only reason women are allowed to wear pants now is because we demanded it.

      It used to be illegal for women to wear pants. Take a wild guess as to who were the ones to make those laws.

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      • OfCourseNot@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The only reason women are allowed to wear pants now is because we demanded it.

        Many women are still not allowed to wear pants. Also, bit of a tangent, but is that like an 'anti-royal we' or are you old as fuck?

        Take a wild guess as to who were the ones to make those laws.

        I don't have to guess, I have relation with people from cultures where it's not acceptable yet for women to wear whatever they want. It is enforced by their whole community, not only men, and it, the community, also imposes strict rules on how to live for men too.

        I didn't mean it in the sense that there's no sexism anymore, because there absolutely is. But every time I heard, or read, someone using the word 'patriarchy' is to spout some culture-war nonsense that doesn't help fight sexism at all, quite the opposite—if it has any effect is pushing boys and young men (and some girls and women) that don't know any better into the arms of conservatism. These lads are not your oppressors, and they have no more say than you or me into how society works, but if you treat them as if they were your enemy many of them will eventually become your enemy.

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  • Malica@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Misogyny

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  • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Same with tennis. Why do women have to wear short skirts and moan when hitting the ball… Because it’s regulations were made by nasty old men and for women to progress they have to moan and look hot, otherwise these old men will make sure they won’t have a career.

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    • datavoid@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fyi the men are also moaning

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  • Astronut@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why do women golf at all? Why do men golf? Why do people chase a ball around a pasture for entertainment? Why would anyone even watch that shit at all?

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    • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Because people like things you don’t like.

      I’m sure there’s plenty of people who think your preferred pastime is a complete waste too.

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      • Astronut@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That’s probably true! I don’t like much of anything. Hell, I don’t even like people!

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  • daggermoon@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The men should wear the short skirts too. I volunteer to be first. I’ve never played golf though.

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  • Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Because they picked it out that morning.

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