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• justsomeguy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The worse part is that Sony is already using adaptive pricing in their online store. Every user has a profile and the prices are based on previous behavior. Users who spent a lot and impulsively buy games no matter if they’re on sale will pay more.

  Greed is a demon.

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  • nuko147@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is this even legal? EU legal?

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  • warmaster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sony:

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• MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I foresee a future of jail broken PlayStations and games on flash drives. Raise the sails me mateys!

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  • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I foresee a future of jail broken PlayStations

    To be fair, that future is now. People are already hacking PS5’s to turn them into Linux machines

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    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That only works for launch machines that have never been updated though.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They’ve longed lobbied for anti-circumvention legislation and the corrupt politicians in the US and the rest of the World (with the EU Comission as a notable mention) have made sure it was implemented everywhere, exactly to avoid such a future.

    The entire rotten edifice of Intellectual Property in the present day is literally the product of decades of corrupt politicians stealing more and more from the Public Domain to extend and protect this entirelly artificial kind of “property” for the benefit of the ultra-rich.

    I was there in the 90s when this corrupt destruction of the “commons” started limiting what could be done in the Digital domain and saw how Techies lost, which is how we ended up with two decades of every more and ever more enshittified “closed garden” setups for all kinds of digital things.

    Without shit like anti-circumvention legislation run of the mill people would have easy access in their friendly corner store to China-made devices doing things like what you describe or, for example, break out of Apple’s closed garden.

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• Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is a valid observation, but also much more widespread than just Sony.

  Xbox, Google Android, Apple, Oculus; there’s probably others. Many electronics companies have made devices that can only interface with their own App Store, in a digital fashion.

  And that’s not me excusing it. A perfect world should probably have alternatives - but it does also make one worry that in that future, manufacturers wouldn’t have any incentive to sell their consoles under manufacturing costs.

  Something the lawsuit may have to deal with is whether Sony can be aggressively forced into building a disc reader into consoles, in a world where many devices have no such thing.

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• dance_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If we can’t choose to buy physical games, we need to have the option of where we can digitally buy them.

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  • Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I agree that discs are outdated and can’t hold enough data for the whole game and they should turn to cartridges.

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    • dance_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Oh man full circle back to cartridges would be hilarious.

      Observe! The ancient dust blowing technique.

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    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You want $300 games? Cause that’s how you get $300 games lol.

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    • Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The price of RAM makes cartridges unaffordable.

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  • minorkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Or you could find another hobby and be done with it all.

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  • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Aren’t they going to still sell boxed copies with a digital code inside them? Like what GTA6 is doing.

    That gives retailers the ability to have pricing competition, and could result in lower digital prices on PSN too - unless sony prevents them from being sold below their PSN price.

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not from Sony.

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    • ms_lane@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yet.

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• Deconceptualist@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What if we find a compromise? Instead of getting rid of discs entirely, perhaps Sony could make them smaller. Like some kind of… mini-disc?

  /s

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  • MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    We just need to return to these bad boys.

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    • kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      AY YO THAT’S THE SAVE ICON!!!

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    • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I have some blank floppies I use as coasters. Seriously, though, just changing the physical format the games are distributed on would be a very smart move.

      Nintendo not just keeping physical media but going back to cartridges with the Switch and now the Switch 2 has been a fantastic move for them. They increased the price of their console, same as MS and Sony, but it hasn’t gone up nearly as much since the system has barely any storage space in it. And it doesn’t really need the storage because games don’t need to install to compensate for the relatively low optical drive read speeds. Sure, games are the same price or even a bit higher so total cost of ownership after a few years is probably comparable, but the lower buy-in cost has caused them to rapidly gain market share.

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• ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I hope people will just stop playing on PlayStation (or any console for that matter) and go over to PC with Steam (and 🏴‍☠️).

  Consoles, the game prices and the practices of these corporations ain’t worth the money, time and effort.

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  • TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah, stick to the companies that really care about the consumer like Intel, Gigabyte, and NVIDIA! 🤡

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    • ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, stick to the companies that really care about the consumer like Intel, Gigabyte, and NVIDIA! 🤡

      I understand your point but I rather build my own PC, pirate and pay for indie games than buy from Sony, Xbox, or Nintendo. In this life, we got to choose which of the corporations gets our money. At least with a PC, I can choose with which parts I want to build it, how good I want it to be, and how much I want to pay for it or wait it out.

      If you know the instance I’m on, you probably know how I get my games, software, and eBooks. I myself can decide whether I want to actually pay for it or not at all. PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo users can’t do that. They are forced to pay hefty prices for their games and then still get locked out of their games (movies, TV shows, etc.) when the company decides to pull everything.

      Trying to act all ‘‘clownish’’ just makes you look like a really bad debater, though.

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• Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  All resistance is futile, unless (the vast majority of) people will not buy it at all. But they, as usual, will do that anyway, no matter what.

  Most people seem to not see the longterm implications of things or just don’t understand or care.

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The console market has ceded market share to PC over the past few decades specifically because a growing portion of the market sees that it’s cheaper over time. Everyone knows about Steam sales being better than the equivalent on consoles, whether they know it’s because of increased market competition or not. More and more people have shown that they’re doing the math on subscriptions to play online and realizing that it’s not a good deal. When you cut out the physical market and its own methods of keeping purchase prices down, more people still will do the math and decide not to engage.

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    • TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The actual data does not support your conclusion.

      weforum.org/…/gaming-games-consels-xbox-play-stat…

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Fair points… Guess we will see when the new PS/Xbox hit the market. I hope you’re right…

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  • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Or they completely understand and are ok with it.

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Which surely will be the minority. I don’t care either as I don’t like consoles. But I like customer rights.

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  • TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There are an estimated 3,600,000,000 active video games players worldwide…

    Why does it never occur to anyone in these threads that YOU might just be an insignificant but vocal minority?

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That was my point. Just revisit this thread in 10yrs and see.

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  total price control

  Isn’t this the same line they used with Steam?

  Can’t you just… buy a different console?

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  • Datz@szmer.info ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But what if you already bought a console? It shouldn’t be held hostage by Sony selling games at 100$ in the future. A PC without Steam is still a PC.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This is a feature they’re rolling out, specifically with an eye towards the PS6. As far as I’m aware, that console hasn’t even been released yet.

      If Sony is retailing games for $100 on their new console, that would strongly dissuade me from buying the console.

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    • TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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