freedom after speech

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• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Spanish constitution defines freedom of speech as “no censorship”. You can’t stop someone from publishing something but you very much can make them legally responsible for what they publish. Libel and defamation are still illegal under freedom of speech, right?

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  • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hopefully I can cunningham’s law a more intelligent response, but libel and defamation aren’t “illegal” as in the police will arrest you for it, it’s a civil violation, so the target of that libel would have to sue you for it.

    Different countries have different bars for proving defamation. Famously, British media avoids calling drunk people drunk, and instead uses “tired and emotional” or similar, because if you say someone was drunk, but you can’t prove it, you are liable if they sue. Contrast that to the US, where if you sue someone for calling you drunk, you have to prove that they would know that they are lying.

    Both methods are subject to abuse, but since suing costs money, it’s more often a weapon of the privileged, so I prefer the US method.

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    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In Spain people were also prosecuted for threats and promoting terrorism. One raper was sentenced to prison for praising ETA and insulting the King but he escaped to Belgium which denied Spain extradition because insulting Spanish king is not a crime there.

      Being prosecuted for insulting the King is of course stupid and this law should be changed but this and praising ETA are just more examples of this you can’t legally say in Spain. The law can’t prevent you from saying it but it can punish you afterwards.

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  • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes, free speech is just about beeing able to voice your political opinion

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    • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not just political

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• Keepthoseeyeslockedonmine@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Dark 😔

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  • Homo_Erectus@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Literally 😔

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    • Karl@literature.cafe ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re not extinct?

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• Wataba@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oh look, current UK policy.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Roight! Off ta gaol with ye lad!

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• agent_nycto@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This should be more shitpost-y. Have you tried a deep-fried filter and some mlg images?

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• teslekova@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Idi Amin was a funny guy. Shame about all the other stuff.

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• Soulphite@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Image

  That’s what the Pedophile of the US of America wants!

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• zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I meam that’s how it was after the founding of the USA. See the sedition act.

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• nanometer1625@thelemmy.club ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Clearly Idi Amin read Animal Farm.

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  • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Clearly not, since he was famously illiterate

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    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Damn, you got me at the end there.

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• janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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