Politicians should get no peace. No taking out the garbage, no going out to eat, none of it without a mob screaming in their faces 24/7.
Data centers get tax breaks. Not you though.
Submitted 20 hours ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to workreform@lemmy.world
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Malyca@lemmy.zip 54 minutes ago
Formfiller@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Why? Because the alternative will lead to people watching their loved ones get hurt or die. People are used to a peaceful existence for the most part, and particularly in the US, food and medicine being regularly available.
If we have to shoot our way out, many will pay a grave cost. I’m not saying it’s not a potential outcome, and if it comes to that, it is what it is, but I don’t blame people for wanting to find any alternative that doesn’t involve the complete social collapse of a civilization.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Multilateral approaches to revolution are statistically way more successful. Meaning there have to be multiple factions but usually some use force or threat of force to back up the peaceful majority. Thems be the facts
moustachio@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Obviously a violent approach shouldn’t be chosen first or lightly or at all if possible—but that doesn’t mean people can’t and shouldn’t start taking steps to defend themselves from illegal violence from the ruling class.
People right now can learn how to operate, maintain and store firearms safely. People right now can form militias and community defense groups as a deterrence from the ruling class violence.
None of that have to mean performing acts of violence, but can help us have a stronger position to bargain in the future.
constant_liability@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Genuine questions: then what is the solution and how have you contributed to it?
lumettaria@sopuli.xyz 1 hour ago
Genuine answer: organizing with your fellow people, and forming communities. It’s not an accident that seems such a monumental task today when historically it was the only reason people survived hardship.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
What are you looking for me to tell you everything I’ve done and hope you think it’s enough? Pathetic. Kick rocks
Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Because you voted your way into this
lumettaria@sopuli.xyz 1 hour ago
Technically people didn’t vote their way into this if we are to believe the second election was rigged… but that doesn’t matter now does it
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
it’s like you can jump out of lava
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
I keep saying it, so maybe I should make a meme of it:
The key ingredient for data centers in the US is not an abundance of water and power, but cheap, bribeable regional officials.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
“We need term limits” lol. Term limits mean politicians need to line their pockets even faster. Fucking Rome was famous for this shit.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
What we really need to do is hold corruption politicians and the businesses that are paying them accountable for 150% of the damages from their schemes. None of this “I took a 5 million dollar bribe and I got 6 months house arrest plus a 1500 dollar fine.”
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
It’s Corruption all the way up.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 12 hours ago
its a plus if they can get the governer to be bribed, which is what happened with whitmer and janet mills. they made sure those datacenters are approved.
Zorque@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I mean, we get lots of tax breaks, they’re just highly dependent on increasingly arcane rulesets that are ever-changing and still designed to keep you on the edge of poverty. And then they’re paid for with higher taxes in years following.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
If you’re a “company” you get to offset money coming in with expenses and even in the most honest of systems only pay tax on the difference.
If you’re an “individual” you pay taxes on any money coming in and cannot offset it with expenses.
So even at the structural level the system is designed to be incredibly unfair. That shit you describe is really just some extra crap on top of a structure made of crap.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 53 minutes ago
Individuals can but only for the stuff they need to get their income.
Anivia@feddit.org 8 hours ago
If you’re a “company” you get to offset money coming in with expenses and even in the most honest of systems only pay tax on the difference (i.e. the profits).
Taxing profits instead of revenue is sensible though, otherwise businesses with low profit margins would be impossible to run. Groceries would be twice as expensive since the supermarket would have to increase their profit margin by a huge amount to not go bankrupt
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Rich ppl are a threat to civilization and need to be significantly disempowered.
mgrecca2026@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
It’s time to take back our world
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 13 hours ago
Head removal sounds like an appropriate debuff
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Thanks for the red, squiggly underline. I’m recovering from my fifth lobotomy this week, and it really aids comprehension.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Well, that’s because they create jobs.
Oh ,wait.
Yaky@slrpnk.net 14 hours ago
The last figure I saw for some Ohio data center was $15 million in tax breaks for 10 jobs. At this rate, give 10 random people in Ohio $1.5 million. That would help the economy much more.
Syndication@lemmy.today 18 hours ago
Corporate socialism for me, not for thee!
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Ohio is the upper Midwest Mississippi
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 17 hours ago
Maybe tax breaks should have to be passed via referendum
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
People get lots of tax breaks. But tax breaks are helpful proportional to your tax debt.
A 10% tax reduction on $1000 is a pittance compared to $1M
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 17 hours ago
Oh wow you just gave the definition of what percentage means. Thanks
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Thanks Obama…
kandoh@reddthat.com 16 hours ago
State government foregoing potential tax revenue to guarantee the purchasing of equipment from in-state suppliers. There is a logic to it.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
Well, I’m sure the taxes from those in-state suppliers will make up the difference. /s
Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
No DC I ever worked in bought from things made in the state…
kandoh@reddthat.com 6 hours ago
Exactly, thus the tax exemption to change that behavior. Foregoing tax revenue you were never going to get to help local businesses.
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Data centers don’t sell anything directly to consumer in order to collect taxes. Taxes are only applied to the end user.
GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
This may be sales tax breaks for things purchased by the datacenter? no sales tax on millions of dollars of computing and cooling is a huge amount…
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
They get huge tax breaks on things property, excise, abatement incentives. Not sales like this post claimed
Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
The purchaser doesn’t pay sales tax though. You pay sales tax when you “sell”
kandoh@reddthat.com 16 hours ago
Yea but it helps make sure the purchasing of said equipment goes to local suppliers. If they buy from out of state there is no revenue anyways, at least this benifits the local economy.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 minutes ago
Ohio is a magat shithole may they get everything they voted for