I never understood why we’re stuck with just capitalism or communism, two economic systems developed before railroads were a thing and written down at night by candle light or a lantern burning whale fat. I think we should come up with something better. To quote President Not Sure, “The water doesn’t have to come from the toilet, but that’s the general idea.”
You have nothing to lose but your brains
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lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
“It’s socialism or barbarism!”. It’s because there hasn’t been any other convincing arguments otherwise. If you give the capitalists an inch, they’ll eventually take it all. You cannot allow capital to accumulate to the degree that it wields real political power.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Socialism hasn’t exactly worked out either. Replacing a flawed system like capitalism with something even worse is not a solution
Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
The real choice is capitalism or democracy.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
These aren’t opposites. Democracy is a system of governance, capitalism is a system of economics. A society can be both at the same time.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
I’m all ears for ideas.
lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
So am I! I just can’t believe Adam Smith and Karl Marx are the Einstein and Newton of economics. It feels like capitalism and communism are the luminiferous ether and fluid theory of electricity and we never bothered advanced any further.
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 20 hours ago
I did some ‘back of the napkin’ math a few days ago to see what it would take for the employees in my company to purchase enough shares for a controlling stake in the company. I figured that we’d never get 100% of the employees to buy in, but we also don’t need 100% of the shares, so to keep it easy I calculated if 60% bought 60% of the shares… and it would cost each employee around $2.3 million.
That tells me that each employee provides $2.3 million worth of value to the company… and we’re not getting paid anywhere near that. Not even close.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 17 hours ago
Company value is just the result of shareholders expectations for the future company value. It doesn’t directly reflect the employees worth
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Why is this highly upvoted? This is just a poor understanding of economics.
The market cap just shows the aggregate value of shares that are being publicly traded. It has nothing to do with labor value. You can’t derive labor value from the market cap because there’s no correlation. If you want to find out how much each employee contributes, you would have to use something like company revenue.
mech@feddit.org 20 hours ago
So get to shitposting!
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
You should subtract initial investments in the company, value of real estate owned, value of machines etc.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
There’s literally a running joke where I work called the “Union Shit”. You run to the bathroom to take a 15 - 20 minute shit between your breaks.
Whether or not you’re actually shitting or just shitposting is between you and those walls lol
mech@feddit.org 7 hours ago
In Germany, you’re having a “Sitzung” which is the word for a conference meeting, but literally just means “sitting”.
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
It means “session”, which also derives from sitting.
CubitOom@infosec.pub 18 hours ago
Do the bare minimum to avoid getting fired.
Actively sabotage your employer.
oldwoodenship@lemmus.org 11 hours ago
why are you doing the bare minimum?! you’re so lazy!
bruh I’m doing literally only what the job asked, unless you pay me more, I’m not doing more
expatriado@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
commenting on shitposts at work until my value matches my pay 🫡
Blurntout@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
This but I’m self employed 😭
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Communism is a meme. It will never work and there will never be a silver bullet revolution.
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
Communism can mean a lot of different things. What kind of economic system do you advocate for?
mech@feddit.org 9 hours ago
I just hope we do find an economic system that works at some point, before it’s too late.
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
I thought shitposting at work increased my value.
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 18 hours ago
Remember, people, the economy depends on you. It is important to be responsible, and to #ActYourWage
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Your labor is more valuable as part of a business than as a freelance secretary. If someone increases the value of your labor in exchange for a cut that’s a fair deal.
Triumph@fedia.io 20 hours ago
Your labor is compensated more as part of a business. That doesn't mean it's fairly compensated.
imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
That’s between you & your union
Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
Well, you can always go work for a non-profit organization. Your salary will be even lower.
mech@feddit.org 15 hours ago
Non-profit only means that any profits generated will be reinvested into the organization, donated or put in a trust fund that finances things the owners want, as a tax avoidance scheme. It has nothing to do with how high the salaries are.
Mozilla is a non-profit and their salaries aren’t that bad:
www.levels.fyi/companies/mozilla/salariesBonsoir@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
Reinvesting profits in the organization is in theory much better than giving it to shareholders. In practice, most non-profit are quite poor, and yes, salary are usually lower than market. Partly because they can’t scale up by using investors money like for-profit do, I guess.
cattywampas@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
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Bombastic@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
You criticize society, yet you live in it. Hypocrisy much? Chekmate liberal