advertising and headers take up 50% of screen space
Submitted 3 weeks ago by gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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hellfire103@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Advertising being allowed to become the dominant monetization method for the internet was a mistake.
I’ve never seen anything that makes most of its money from advertising that doesn’t get worse and worse for it over time as a result. Once you let the advertisers in they will ruin whatever it is they are being allowed to leech off of. Might take 1 year, might take 20, but once they get that foot hold they will run it into the ground because like a billionaire and money, it is never enough.
Two9A@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So I work at DeviantArt, and we actually saw this in real-time. A few years ago, we added external ads all over the place, and had to add a whole framework to detect “ad-unsafe” works that wouldn’t get ads served against them. So we only got ads against a percentage of views, and people were getting pissed at the ads and leaving.
So we tore the ads back out, traffic’s recovered, and a focus on providing actual tools for artists to make money through the site has meant we’re doing better without ads than we were with ads.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
that’s the thing. People will generally support a service they like. If it has ads, most people won’t like it and thus won’t support it.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Extend that from “advertisers” to “capitalists” and you’ll be much more correct.
rhvg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You will soon miss the display banner as it’s at least honest for being an ad. AI will soon have ads weaved in the text itself.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Ublock origin creates an anti-intext filter that filters out text with key phrases indicating an advertisement XD
krashmo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’d rather have ads placed in the text in a context that makes sense than the abomination of a system we have now that is both intrusive and irrelevant.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I’d rather have manipulative content placed in the text in a context that makes sense than the abomination of a system we have now that is both intrusive and irrelevant.
teft@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
If you have ublock origin you should be able to use the element picker to block that frame.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
yeah i’m doing it through the dev console, still annoying.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Since using ublock origin I can’t remember the last time it didn’t automatically hide those now empty elements.
teft@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I’ve had to use it a few times on non-english sites but I agree, most of the time ublock handles those automatically.
Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It is disabled now for me on chrome. Forced to use ublock lite bs.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Why use Chrome in this day of enshittified Google?
pooberbee@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
YMMV but switching to vertical tabs might be an improvement. Especially with such a wide screen, and since most websites (especially articles) only use a narrow column in the center, it’s been great for me.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
huh, interesting thought :D
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Lmao people still using the internet like this is wild.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
i don’t use ad-blocker, instead i just avoid websites if they’re too ad-ridden, like youtube.
XLE@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Just get a bigger screen. But you can't buy bigger screens these days except as smart TVs or monitors... And those smart screens can detect when you aren't interacting with them and display ads...
asdfranger@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
That’s why reading mode exists, I use it all the time when I see sites as shitty as this.
(It’s the little rectangle icon near the bookmark button, on the navigation bar)
grue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They should add a per-site setting to use reading mode by default.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s a great idea.
fitgse@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Surprisingly safari does, but you should still use Firefox (maybe there is an extension?)
ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Why is this not top comment? Reader mode first. Ublock zapper second. If that doesn’t work bye bye
MudMan@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
What resolution are you browsing at? I have a hard time showing that ad at all in my setup, but I'm not even at 4K and I get a HUGE picture of the rocket in question and still see more text than you show in the screenshot. That's what? 720p?
I man, don't get me wrong, ads are annoying, there's a reason why I have so many layers of blocking I couldn't even shut them all off to test this, but you seem to be browsing at what I'd call... legacy resolutions. You'd almost be better off twisting that screen 90 degrees and asking for the mobile version.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
i’m at 1080p. the resolution is low but i need it that low because if i increase the resolution to make everything smaller, it’s too small for my eyes and it actually hurts my eyes. i need a big font, big icons, everything.
MudMan@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Ah. That's more of an accessibility issue than an advertising issue, then. I imagine even without ads a bunch of modern websites expecting higher resolutions and smaller scaling factors will look cramped.
I was not kidding before, if you have vision problems that don't play well with desktop views, mobile versions of websites tend to be a LOT friendlier to large text sizes. Have you tried setting your browser to a vertical window and calling up the phone version? On Firefox at least you can set the resolution of the phone you're emulating and zoom it all the way up. The setting is buried in the developer tools, but there are tons of tutorials out there (TLDR, press F12, look for the button that looks like a tablet/phone).
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d strongly suggest running a higher resolution (if your monitor supports it) and just using the various scaling/accessibility options of your OS. I cannot handle raw 4k any more, but I’ve been running with it just fine at 150% scale for probably over a decade now, on various versions of Windows and Linux (XFCE and Plasma, mostly). Only the very rare ancient program from Windows XP days won’t scale properly, and even then you can just tell the window manager to scale the whole thing.
I say all this because things will literally be clearer and more legible if you run your monitor at native resolution and have the OS/browser render things larger. If your monitor is 1080p… well… I guess just know you shouldn’t have to fear being picky with a new one if/when the time comes!
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
On mobile it can be literally 75% of the screen sh.itjust.works/comment/20387049
SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Techcrunch isn’t even the worst offender…
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
ikr
SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Space dot com is, at least on mobile, completely covered in ads. Makes me question the legitimacy of their articles.
Schwim@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Block the elements with an ad blocker if it’s a site you frequent often .
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
50% so far
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 3 weeks ago
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
infinite tabs
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 3 weeks ago
Haha they never get closed
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
only 50%?
those are rookie numbers. I frequently come across sites that block around 75%
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Can you use uBlock Origin to remove the DIV for the ad? Or is it using randomly generate IDs?
keisatsu@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
If its predictable at least partly you can hide it with ublock origin and something like ##div[class^=“classThatContainAds”]
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Idiocracy
5oap10116@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Guess you need to invest in a vertical 34" monitor
relativestranger@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
abfarid@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
That sucks. As one of the workarounds I have vertical taskbar and tabs. Our screens have more horizontal space than we usually need.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
And they get small-mobile-mode on desktop-mode >:(
NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Estimates show we can sell up to 80% of an individual’s visual field before inducing seizures…
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Fiction once again being the manual…
gloktawasright@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can you remind me what this is from?
dustywinter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Ready Player One