Need more than WiFi and vegetables
In this day and age is it possible to create a commune? With majority of vegetables coming from one acre and all put in to get wifi to our subdivision? So the bill is not that high?
Submitted 16 hours ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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ryannathans@aussie.zone 16 hours ago
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
I for one am quite fond of not having to concern myself with my poop beyond the push of a button
Snowclone@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
There’s an African farmer that came up with a septic tank that fed a methane generator.
zxqwas@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
They exist in the world. They are not very popular, judging by the fact that you’ve not heard of them.
You need much more than 1 acre per person. First Google result is 5-6 per person.
Grimy@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
You will need a lot more money, there is more to daily expenses than food and wifi. Also 1 acre is not enough for a sizeable group.
You absolutely can though. I know the preppers forum had one. You see it a lot more in Latin America these days, mostly retired expats and hippies (not trying to be derogatory). I find it’s kind of hard to ask people to put in all that effort though when they don’t get proper land rights. A commune doesnt offer a stable retirement other than trust me. I always imagine tension can run a lot higher than they should in these types of communities.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
yes it’s very likely to either get torn apart by interpersonal tensions such as infidelities or economic power struggles or just devolve into a new age cult of some kind, and usually some combination of all three from what I’ve seen of those kinds of communities.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yea 1acre will not grow shit for more than a few people to enjoy food from randomly.
adespoton@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
Usually in the US they call it a co-op instead of a commune, but yeah, things like that are already done.
shalafi@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I’m thinking you don’t understand how many acres it takes to feed a few people. I’d be scared shitless trying to feed my skinny family of 4 on a single acre, and that’s assuming a constant water supply.
OK, looked around a bit, yeah, we’d starve on 1 acre.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 15 hours ago
All it takes is people getting together and organizing to do a thing. Co-ops exist all over the place. Also plenty of cults have communes. Those kinds suck tho.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 12 minutes ago
Yeah the kool-aid is terrible. I mean come on! How do you fuck up kool-aid?!
count_dongulus@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Try looking for crops to grow that are nutritious but relatively low maintenance. Sweet potatoes, sunchokes, groundcover strawberries, asparagus, cherry tomatoes, etc. Bonus if you can grow excess to sell at local farmers markets for some extra income, though the easiest the grow ones probably won’t fetch a great price. Also, look for native options. Less maintenance, and local pollinators are more likely to help out.
If you’re not squeamish, rabbits breed very quickly and just eat grass. Chickens are good for eggs and meat.
bpalmerau@aussie.zone 15 hours ago
In Australia they’re now called ‘intentional communities’. That might help with searching. Some are religious but some are not. Quite a few are just science/sustainability based.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 15 hours ago
Community gardens and Internet cooperative are the operating phrases you’re searching for
OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Yeah
Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 hours ago
There are a few in my country and theyre filled with the craziest hippies
sh00g@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
What?
littletoolshed@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
In this day and age is it possible to create a commune? With majority of vegetables coming from one acre and all put in to get wifi to our subdivision? So the bill is not that high?
sh00g@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
OH thank you I understand now. Unfortunately, no.
HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
With an llc and enough contracts, sure. Have “investors” pay into some cooperative to buy land/startup, then everyone is somehow working for that co-op which pays for everything?
Xanthrax@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Do you have access to the ground water?
Patnou@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
We run on well water.
Xanthrax@lemmy.world 33 minutes ago
Grow vertically
meyotch@slrpnk.net 14 hours ago
If you really want help, you almost need to dox yourself by giving pretty specific location info. So please don’t do that.
Land matters are very complex in any country. In the USA, laws around land use can vary from one block to another. 50 states and many matters are delegated from each state to their counties for implementation.
My point is, yes, you may be able to arrange such a community.
It can be a tricky legal, political and social affair that is very specific to your exact site.
So plan on a huge learning curve and learning how to find the right kind of legal and organizational advice.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
The wifi rollout thing is tricky… Especially because who do you untrust the administration to? Technically whoever is managing it can see everything everyone in the subdivision does online, and since it’s all shared, could be doing packet sniffing to de-obfuscate your traffic and if they’re untrustworthy, potentially be stealing your PII. They’re already going to have a lot of your PII simply from knowing who you are and where you live, but basically having your entire internet history at their fingertips no less.
It’s part of why I refuse to move in somewhere that someone else controls the connection, literally for that reason. I want my own private connection because I don’t trust other people with this.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
I once had a deal with my landlord to provide wifi to the other tenants. Of course I didn’t snoop, but it’s not like they had any real assurance of that. You’d think there might be some privacy concerns but nobody had a problem except when the internet was down. I think in general people don’t tend to care about that, though if you do there’s the option of using a VPN.
the_q@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Google intentional communities.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
The problem isn’t that it’s impossible, but that humans are so awful they simply can’t do something like this without infighting and bickering and blame.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 hours ago
A friend joined a group of people to build a co-op in a house about ten years ago. Shouldn’t be any different today.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Yes, of course. Look at Amish communities. Largely self-sufficient and thriving.