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I’m saving up for a new phone and I’m thinking of getting a foldable one.
Are they really as good/bad as people say they are?The one I had in mind was the Pixel Fold.
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cross-posted from: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46649349
I’m saving up for a new phone and I’m thinking of getting a foldable one.
Are they really as good/bad as people say they are?The one I had in mind was the Pixel Fold.
I have the new pixel fold. The first and most important part is to understand how Google views the warranty on the inner screen.
Within two weeks I had what seemed to be hairline fractures on the inner screen and a potential artifact in the fold crease. I wasn’t too worried but I was going to have them check on it. Before I could take it in to the Google store, it snapped. The entire screen flooded black within 14 hours when I went back to the store.
I was informed that this wasn’t covered under warranty, but they’d make an exception because i literally bought it two weeks prior.
Their stance is that once the screen is that fatally flawed manufacturing defects and misuse damage (i.e. dropping) looks identical. The curvy bendy middle means the outer edges are under more stress and stiffer so when the screen breaks even from defects or creates impact shatter lines.
Based on this alone, I wouldn’t recommend anyone get the phone. Not without expecting to have to pay for the insurance plan and to budget for replacing the inner screen at least once. It’s significantly heavier and with the fear of breaking, I have a heavy duty dbrand case. So the phone feels like a bloody brick.
That said, I do love it. And I don’t know if I’ll go back. I don’t know if I’ll stick to the form factor either. I do a lot of home server shenanigans on it. Home assistant. Control my tv. I live multi-tasking on it when taking notes. I could buy a phone and a tablet for cheaper. But there’s something about just having the extra size always handy rather than having to walk around the house with a mini-tablet.
Just be aware that there are huge, glaring downsides to the form factor before you buy in. It is objectively cool and I love unfolding it. It never doesn’t feel futuristic.
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I personally buy mid-budget phones, which means these aren’t even a consideration. But, I probably wouldn’t buy one even at the same price due to the plastic screens being very easy to scratch and a larger screen not having much value for me. But, really it’s up to you what you value in your phone.
The screen is plastic, instead of glass. Meaning it is very easy to scratch
It’s actually a specially made glass that is thin and flexible https://www.schott.com/en-us/expertise/applications/schott-utg-in-foldable-displays
. You might be thinking of the factory installed screen protectors on most (all?) foldable phones that is made of plastic.
I had a Galaxy ZFold 4 and there were lots of things I liked about it. The larger screen really does make a big difference for consuming content and looking at/signing documents. I ended up going back to a traditional style phone because I realized that I spent a lot of time thinking about general fragility of my phone in a way that I hadn’t before. Cases are significantly more expensive and require adhesives to stay attached. I had a few in warranty repairs from debris in the hinge as well.
It’s actually a specially made glass that is thin and flexible
The foldable screens scratch at a Mohs hardness level of 2. Glass doesn’t scratch until 6.
Many years ago, I used to have huge phablet that I could only carry in the largest pockets of my jacket. It was also ridiculously thin, and made of glass, which made it very fragile. As s result, I was so worried about bending it or breaking it, that those ideas started to sneak into my dreams! Getting rid of it was a relief.
I second this. I broke the screen on my OnePlus Open and just decided to go back to a normal phone and went with a Pixel 9. I’ve since moved to a iPhone SE 2022, it’s so nice having such on a powerful phone in such a small footprint, I just wish the battery life was better.
Writing this on a Pixel Fold…
The concerns about the screen fragility are overblown, I’ve been using this thing for a year now with no screen damage, no scratches, and the hinge is fine… I run a cheap snap-on plastic case with no screen protector. There’s a small scratch on the hinge itself from one of the many times I’ve dropped it.
It’s nice to have a larger screen for videos and pictures. It’s nice to be able to run two full-size apps at once, but Hearthstone + YouTube is really the only thing I ever use that feature for. It’s nice for DS/3DS emulation, if you attach a controller. But for me personally, I don’t feel I use it unfolded enough to justify the extra weight and thickness. I’ll be going back to a slab phone when it’s time to upgrade.
I’m a big gimmick guy, I LOVE a good gimmick. I liked my Surface RT with the flat touch keyboard, I liked my Surface Book with the kooky hinge and detachable screen, and I like my Samsung Fold 6.
I flip it open all the time, I like using the GameSir controller on it and turning it into a super emulator, I like watching YouTube on it with the kickstand while I cook, I like actually having one app on the left side, one app on the right.
My god phones got boring, so many dull slabs of glass, it’s just nice to have something EXCITING again.
My god phones got boring, so many dull slabs of glass, it’s just nice to have something EXCITING again.
I totally get this thought, but I’m still concerned about creases forming in the screen on these new foldable phones.
I liked my Samsung fold phone, having the bigger screen was awesome. In the end I went back to sultra series from Samsung because the foldable was too heavy and caused my hands to cramp.
My nephew has a Pixel Fold and it’s kinda neat and all, but he barely uses the unfold feature cause he just doesn’t need a big screen most of the time so it’s mostly just a really thick-ass phone. It’s not even great for watching movies because it’s a weird aspect ratio so you have big black bars on the top and/or sides.
Also we tried folding phones before, we called them flip phones, and the hinges were always the first thing to break.
I have a Moto Razr. When opened, it has the form factor of a standard phone, but when closed, it’s a perfectly square little block. It’s honestly the best form factor I’ve had in a phone. It’s also a 2023 model, so I’ve had it for about a year and a half at this point, and the screen is still in perfect condition. There is a small ripple in the screen at the fold, but it’s only visible when shining direct light on it. You have to be looking for it under specific conditions.
I love mine, but I wasn’t going to pay new price for them. But used, it’s worth the money. Like you say, it folds down to a very small block and fits in the pocket well. I just make sure I put the outside screen towards my chest (shirt pocket) and never had it fall out like other phones do, since I’m pretty actively moving most days.
I use a Galaxy fold, and honestly, you can take my folding phone from my cold dead hands, because there is no other way in giving them up.
I had a Samsung Fold 3 and then upgraded to a Fold 6 which ended up costing less than half after the trade in bonuses and promotions. It’s insanely useful for me to be able to open it up for watching videos, reading books or articles, sketching ideas and more. Being able to just unfold it halfway to stand it up on a table is also pretty useful at times. It definitely enables you to do a lot more things that would’ve been a pain on a regular phone.
Durability is surprisingly much better than I had expected. I’ve dropped it a few times and it’s still pretty solid, though I’ve never dropped it while it was open.
I also like that it’s narrower than a normal phone and thicker since it really helps for one handed use which is why I’m not a fan of the Chinese ones or the rumours of the Fold 7 being much wider and thinner. Honestly, it’s an unpopular opinion but I thought the Fold 3’s width was perfect, they just needed to trim the bezels further.
So yea, I can’t go back to a regular phone anymore. Even though I spend 70% of the time folded, the 40% where is unfolded more than makes it worth it.
The 10% of the time when it’s both folded and unfolded must be sublime.
They fold it real slow so the quantum state takes up 10% of their phone time
This is exactly why I wanted one. Exactly why I then got it, and on discovering it worked exactly like I wanted, I got a better one.
If you’ve ever wished for a bigger screen on your phone…
(I love toys, gadgets and tech so for me the price point was worth it. Objectively, the higher price I don’t think is justified by the higher utility)
I have a clamshell "z flip 6" prior to that I also has the 3 and before that the 2.
I'm extremely clumsy and always drop my phone. Prior to these flips, my primary reason for upgrading was that I cracked the screen. I've never once cracked the screen on my flip because it's always inside and the case covers the entire outside when folded.
I also haven't observed any issues with the hinge area cracking on any of them. Not sure if I'm just lucky. But I do tend to sit there and stim opening and closing the phone repeatedly so I don't think it's due to my usage.
My partner is ymas keen photographer and has the fold out tablet style one and loves the big screen for viewing photos and websites, but I like the little one because it fits in my tiny pockets and purses.
Starting with Samsung’s Flip5/Fold5 they are solid enough IMHO.
Read several test reports before you buy.
I like it a lot but I have a clamshell. I don’t understand the purpose of the other form factors. It really isn’t much different from other phones after a while, except you forget about how nobody else’s phone closes or fits in their pocket.
I believe the proper use cases for the candy bar folds are 2 groups: data-dense users that wish Blackberries and Palm Pilots stuck around or, alternatively, people with poor eyesight. I don’t think video consumption is the main use. Maybe Candy Crush XL or something though
I’d watch some videos on the YouTube channel JerryRig Everything. He does destructive tests on these kinda phones.
A buddy of mine has a foldable Samsung and likes it. IDK what model but it’s big, looks like a full sized phone when folded, and opens out into something with 2x the screen space of a normal phone, basically a mini tablet.
I had a number of flip phones in the old days and they all broke at the hinge. So there’s that.
I personally wouldn’t. These things are like $1.5K+ USD, but the inner screen can be easily scratched. Hinge is one extra point of failure, although it supposedly last longer than the lifetime of the device, that hinge is where sand can get in and its not dust-tight.
My opinion is that these are rich people toys.
You gotta ask yourself: Do you really need that big of a screen?
The screen breaks, don’t buy one
I think screens are capable of breaking on all phones.
I mean, it breaks by itself (from personal experience), by simply folding and unfolding it on a regular basis
Maybe it was a defective model, idk. But there are no real benefits (maybe there are some with a phone --> mini tablet foldable phone)
Watch the screen scratch test by JerryRigsEverything, then watch another scratch test done on another modern non-folding phone (such as the Galaxy S25 or iPhone 16) and you’ll see how fragile those bending screens really are.
The spirit breaks under the crushing weight of capitolism.
To put in in perspective. A Moto G Play is $150 (at retail, not including discounts) and can withstand a razor blade scratching the screen, the inner screen of a foldable phone, which is 10x the cost, cannot withstand a simple fingernail.
Some considerations:
Do you prefer to have only the latest technology, regardless of cost? These phones are in flagship price ranges.
Are you very careful with your phone? Cases exist, but necessarily protect less of the device. The screen is far more prone to damage, but they are durable enough for daily use if you are a careful person.
Are you looking to get/replace both a phone and a tablet? Reviewers tend to say that foldables are not an adequate replacement for a tablet, but people I know personally say that it is more than enough to use as a tablet.
What features are you willing to compromise? Foldables often have lower quality cameras, chips, and smaller batteries than similarly priced phones. I’m assuming you have already looked into it, since this is easiest thing to check.
Do you just really want a foldable? Honestly, everyone I know who has one loves it. If you like the format then go for it :)
My old coworker came in with the Samsung Z flip. Proudly showing it off. The next week he was back to a standard glass slab because the flip was out for repairs.
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
I got an pixel 9 pro fold used for like $1000 on eBay. Way cheaper than a new one and about the same cost as a new non-folding phone. I installed graphene os on it and I’ve been digging it. Def don’t use the inner screen as much as I thought I would but its still cool to have when I do use it.