Don’t worry. Us Americans will entirely ignore that other 1st world nations have a better quality of life and we’ll continue to allow our abusers to abuse us more.
Iceland approved the 4-day workweek in 2019: nearly 6 years later, all the predictions made have come true.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by the_abecedarian@piefed.social to workreform@lemmy.world
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DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
match@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
except for the nazis who will declare that better quality of life is only possible if the population is all “white”
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Now that you mentioned it, the government is now all mask off on what they mean when they say US is “too diverse for affordable healthcare”.
Enkrod@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I would love that. Just one more day, one more day a week to do my own activities. That would help so much with all the anxieties.
BlueLineBae@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
I was lucky enough to experience the 4 day work week for 1 glorious year. I used my extra day to schedule weekday appointments without taking time off, taking care of chores so I could enjoy the weekend more, and doing more hobbies when I wasn’t doing those other 2 things. It was the best quality of life I ever had.
XnxCuX@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Want to tell my lazy ass partner? 3 days off a week and acts like he working 6 24h shifts a week
ChexMax@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, when I was lucky enough that I could survive on part time income, my four day work week was glorious. I used Mondays to just rest. I could actually enjoy my weekends AND be productive because I wasn’t trying to also rest in prep for the coming week.
HubertManne@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
This is where unions really dropped the ball. I feel in the eighties and even back in the seventies they were pushing for overtime over increased staffing and thus membership plus not going for lower work week. Its crazy that the work week increased over the last 50 years (well in the us).
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 weeks ago
🥳
Now let’s go for 12 hour tit for tat work weeks!
Nú skulum við fara í 12 tíma vinnuvikur þar sem við skiptum á milli!
LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
You’re getting me too excited, stop filling my head with such wondrous dreams!
sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Oh hey I have this work life balance and can’t make ends meet. The 4 hour shifts feel unproductive due to break rules, incentivizing the 15 minutes used at the end of day. These days I usually have very limited time and cannot extend/reflect meaningful progessive or incentive to engage further.
In turn losing ability to create further responsibility, which assures the job necessitates me. Losing a major avenue of job security.
Any time free is spent trying to not indulge in further spending.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 weeks ago
I’m not so sure why your employer isn’t paying you for the dividends of your yields, but the 12hr tit for tat work week is the homo sapien schedule to a healthy body. The countries doing 4 day work weeks pay for the full 40 hour wages + benefits, even if you’re working 32hrs.
I’m anarchist, wages are theft. So is money. This is why I’m mentioning to keep pushing the political landscape further free. Work should be for pursuits, not having to worry about paying rent
syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
How does a 36-hour workweek work out to a four-day workweek?
Here in Norway everyone in sneezing distance of a union deal has a five-day workweek at 7.5 hours a day, for 37.5 hours in total. (The law says six days at 8 hours; the half-hour difference is in practice lunch, which is your own time with a union deal and the boss’ time without. I think we could go down to 7h a day and get an hour of lunch like our neighbours.)
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
9 x 4 = 36
IANI (I am not Icelandic) but that’s my guess based on currently-accepted mathematical models.
syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Yeah, but there’s also no way anyone in the Nordics would be fine with a nine-hour workday. There’s something clearly wrong here.
I’d rather guess that they’re working a five-day workweek but have cut the hours per day from 8 to 7.2, or 8 hours Mon-Thu and 4 hours on Friday or the like. The article just comes off as weird.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Probably four 9 hour days
syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
There’s nothing probable about the combination of a Nordic country and a 9-hour workday.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
The only problem with Iceland is all of the beautiful people, scenery, and society beset with relative happiness and prosperity.
the_abecedarian@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Looks like they're making their own happiness!
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Meanwhile, US companies are ending their temporary COVID-prompted telework “experiments” and threatening to fire employees who won’t return to the office. Because results mean nothing - we do it the way we do it because that’s how we do it.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Authoritarian culture begets authoritarian policy, in both the public and private sectors.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s true whether the authority takes the form a government, a corporation, or a group exerting peer pressure. The difference is the type of leverage they use - imprisonment, firing, or social rejection.
ikidd@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I hired you so you could worship at my feet, not to be productive at home, dammit.
Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
My guess is that it’s the share holder class pushing them to not allow WFH, due to also being heavily invested in business real estate combined with middle management knowing they could function with less of or without them.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re giving the system way too much credit for being cohesive and organized. I’ve known one bullheaded manager after another who individually just outright disbelieves working from home can work, no matter how much evidence is staring them in their face. They just know what they know because they know it, and in the context of their little kingdom they’re used to having the power to make people shut up. They’ll reel off a standard list of talking points, which are opportunities for you to back down, and if they run out of those they’ll end the conversation with something like, “Well I’m sorry we can’t agree on this” - with the implied “but I’m in charge.”
DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I work a 4x10 workweek right now. Huge improvement on my quality of life. I use my free weekday to handle chores and shopping and appointments, then actually spend my weekend with my family. I’ve been doing this for about 3 years.
I know I’ll lose this someday. Eventually somebody will use it against me. That’s the day I’ll start entertaining new opportunities.
LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Could you imagine 4x8 with same pay? Even better!
roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They’re probably only really getting 8 hours of quality work out of most people in a 10 hour day anyway.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
I might stop trying to speedrun FIRE if I could have a 4x8 schedule. Going from 71% of the week being workdays to 57% of the week is fucking huge. Longer weekend and shorter workweek is like a double effect.
rabber@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Any Icelanders that will marry me?
Seriously. Pm me. I will propose immediately.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Terrible choice of headline - either the supporters or the detractors could assume this means they were right. What happened was that it’s working out GREAT.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The Icelandic experiment began in 2015 with a pilot phase involving around 2,500 employees, or just over 1% of the country’s working population. Following the resounding success of this initiative, with 86% of the employees involved expressing their support, the project was made official in 2019 . Today, almost 90% of Icelandic workers benefit from a reduced working week of 36 hours, compared with 40 hours previously, with no loss of pay. Initial concerns about the four-day week were widespread, both in Iceland and elsewhere in the world. There were fears of a drop in productivity, increased costs for businesses and difficulties in adapting to maintain service levels. However, the Icelandic experience has swept these fears under the carpet.
The Icelandic experiment began in 2015 with a pilot phase involving around 2,500 employees, or just over 1% of the country’s working population. Following the resounding success of this initiative, with 86% of the employees involved expressing their support, the project was made official in 2019 . Today, almost 90% of Icelandic workers benefit from a reduced working week of 36 hours, compared with 40 hours previously, with no loss of pay. Initial concerns about the four-day week were widespread, both in Iceland and elsewhere in the world. There were fears of a drop in productivity, increased costs for businesses and difficulties in adapting to maintain service levels. However, the Icelandic experience has swept these fears under the carpet.
Damage@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
Yes, but what about the suffering?
goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wonder what the impact on birthrates has been
AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think that metaphor means what they think it means.
potpotato@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Idiom, bruv
obinice@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Whadid y’all call me
Hupf@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
xkcd.com/762/
Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
prefer analogy, everything is better with anal
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
*rug.