Submitted 2 weeks ago by RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world to [deleted]
Like yes, it would still suck for the people from El Salvador.
But at least people from other countries would go back to their home country. Presumably to be treated far better than El Salvador.
Congress recently passed a law that allows people to be deported without due process. They’re not trying to stop him…they’re actively helping him.
…what? I need a source for this, please. 😧
It’s called the “Laken Riley Act”, and it allows for the deportation of people who have simply been “charged” with a criminal offense. They don’t have to be tried or convicted…just officially accused.
Republicans don’t care.
Laws don’t matter. The government is breaking laws left, right and centre.
I don’t know what the US congress is any more, but in other countries it’s because they really really want to expel someone and the deportee’s home country might say “no thanks, they’re your problem”.
In case of the US they’ll ask “Oh? You reject him? You and what army?”
You can’t really deny the US much, y’know.
Afganistan said no when the US wanted Bin Laden. Two and a half trillion dollars later the exact same people are back in charge and now they’re armed with modern American weapons instead of vintage Soviet ones. Everyone lost except the people who said no to the US.
BS. You think the US is going to invade over not accepting a deportee? The restr of the glove is not so scared of the Us that they will just do whatever silly BS the US asks, especially now that we’ve been proven to be a bunch of impotent clowns.
Unfortunately for Kilmar Abrego Garcia, he is from El Salvador and in 2019, an immigration judge granted him withholding of removal status due to the danger he faced from gang violence if he returned to El Salvador.
Right. That is why the Administration position on this has some merit which the courts need to defer to. As an El Salvadoran who is back in his home country, the US cannot compel his release. All the US can do is ask nicely.
But, they haven’t even done that. Which is why the courts are so pissed. They know all this, and they know that all the administration has to do is prove they asked, in good faith. They won’t even go that far. They did that performative thing where the El Salvadoran President said “We won’t send him back since he’s a criminal”, but the courts in the US don’t consider him a criminal.
There is no better definition of “contempt of court” then what the US is doing right now.
I know you’re not defending the administration, but I wouldn’t consider the administration’s position to have any merit. They sent him to the prison and are paying for him to be imprisoned there. Giving them an inch of credibility on technicalities just means they’ll continue to do what they’re doing.
Do you remember how prisoners were kept in Guantanamo Bay, even after they were no longer suspected of any wrongdoing, simply because there wasn’t a country that would both accept them and treat them in accordance with US law? Many of those prisoners ended up nowhere near where they came from.
Some countries refuse to accept deportees. Some countries are so likely to mistreat deportees that sending them to those countries is illegal. Some countries simply don’t exist anymore.
The fucking thought that Americans feel superior enough to not allow another country to take them…in this case from their extra judicial torture black site.
The Uyghurs in Guantanamo didn’t want to go back to China.
Were? There’s guys still there
Because then most of the people being deported right now would just be deported to the US, causing a paradox and unfolding reality.
Because then they wouldn’t be able to deport actual US citizens.
Mainly because the law is working as intended. Also because you would have to define what “their own country” is. Think of DACA recipients, who in many cases don’t even speak the language of the place where they were born, have no cultural or family connections back there, is that “their own country” if the are more USian than anything? What tablet the opposite? naturalized Citizens who very much retain the cultural and heritage connections, at times even creating separate cultural enclaves.
It is almost as if “your own country” is a made up racist concept that gets wielded by power structures to keep people at each other’s throats.
Because congress is complicit
it’s not a law that one country can make. it’s a law that requires agreement between countries via international treaty
We could easily, and should, implement a law saying that people must be deported back to their own country. It just means fewer people would be deported.
it’s not a law that one country can make. it’s a law that requires agreement between countries via international treaty
Because they havent been paid to do so yet. They dont work for us.
There’s a lot wrong with sending everyone to El Salvador or Gitmo. But quite a few people who seek asylum are trying to escape a deadly situation in their own country. (Yes if they’re trying for asylum they’re not supposed to be deported without due process but that’s not stopping the Reich.
Back in the day, they told Lord Byron that there was a rule against people having dogs at his college.
There wasn’t a rule against having a bear, so he got one of those.
Because our laws only protect the wealthy, enforce racism, sexism and are getting worse and more genocidal in real time
Because both Houses of Congress are controlled by Republicans who are 100% in support of everything the regime is doing.
I mean, ignoring the law is this administration’s whole thing, so it wouldn’t matter. Also, as we’ve seen in the UK as well as the US, many targetted individuals have never even been to “their own country”.
Because they are sociopaths that have zero empathy for those they deport.
Some people face persecution in their home country.
And take this scenario:
Someone from Country A travels to Country B and commits a crime, and then travels to Country C without permission.
Where should Country C extradite this person to?
I bet the general answer from congress would be “Why? It’s not our country’s problem where they end up once out of here”
Because people facing deportation aren’t billionaire donors, so the law doesn’t work for them
Congress hasn’t passed much of anything lately. They just let Trump do his executive orders. But even if they felt like doing anything at all, the GOP has control and can count on a few Dems to follow along.
It’s not deportation is exportation.
I agree. People are commodities and should be treated as such.
Because the cruelty of it is the entire point. People still like to imagine those in power have some sort of misguided moral compass or reasoning. They do not. They are pure, unadulterated evil.
Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Because Congress doesn’t care about the well-being of those people. Why else would this nuance be inserted into the law?