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Sagan, you look high.

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wish we could smoke with you now and talk about K2-18b.

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    • iamnotafishuq@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You still can. You probably have at least one atom from Carl in you by now.

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      • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I hope it’s in my weiner

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    • M137@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      K2-18b is a nothing burger. The scientists who made the announcement has done similar before, he seems to really want to be THE person who discovers life on another planet so he skews facts and ignores others facts just for the small chance of being right. Watch this: youtu.be/HYjYvKoQVeM

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      • theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        :(

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    • Hadriscus@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      hell yea

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  • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When I show up to an in-person interview high, in hopes they’ll think that’s my regular behavior:

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    • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean… if you are always high then that isn’t wrong is it?

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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The one time I ever had a boss/supervisor ask me if I was high on the job, was the one day I showed up sober.

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  • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To make an apple pie you gotta first create the universe. Def a stoner thought lol

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t forget “from scratch” lol

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      • niktemadur@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “Scratch” his itch for some of that killer skunk weed, the devil’s lettuce!

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    • undeffeined@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Apple Pie

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Although I don’t agree with illegalization of cannabis, I do have to point out that thc content has gotten dangerously high from like a decade ago. Before, it was like 4%, now it’s nearing 19%. So I don’t feel comfortable recommending people to start recreationally smoking marijuana. It leads to serious mental issues and addiction in some cases. What triggers those “some cases” I don’t know but I don’t really want to try and find out.

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    • Des@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      you know you can just smoke/vape 5x less material, right? i’m personally not a fan of the “high THC-A % at all costs” commercial grows and there is a wonderful variety of 3% or less CBD hemp or type 2s with 4%

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      • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        you know you can just smoke/vape 5x less material, right?

        this is very true and something i practice myself, using as little as possible

        and yet… that’s not how most people use the drug. meth is similar! did you know that if you were to microdose meth you could theoretically use it as an ADHD medication? and yet where are all the microdosers? why does my city have a rampant meth problem?

        thankfully cannabis is not nearly as destructive as meth but the parent comment is right: cannabis is becoming more and more problematic in people’s lives due to the high THC content and the cultural rubber banding effect. we’ve gotta reckon with the fact that this miracle drug is still a drug that messes with our NT systems quite a bit

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    • te_abstract_art@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And this rising potency is a direct consequence of cannabis being illegal. Producers are breeding stronger and stronger strains with higher THC content and lower CBD to get the most bang for their buck.

      If you legalise and regulate it, suddenly that pressure is taken away. Cannabis is produced in consistent and known strengths, distributed in packaging that clearly states the potency so people can make informed choices about what they take.

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      • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And this rising potency is a direct consequence of cannabis being illegal. Producers are breeding stronger and stronger strains with higher THC content and lower CBD to get the most bang for their buck.

        this isnt exactly true. (my instinct is to say it’s completely false but i could be wrong!) in many states, it’s medical marijuana that is >20% THC and the cheap public stuff is unregulated below that amount. so you have people getting a bogus medical card, buying up 30% strands, and smoking an ounce a week and going into psychosis. source: drug counselor

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    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A consequence of its prohibition. History keeps on repeating itself, yet we never learn.

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      • peteyestee@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The street market and mainstream market both rely on structure.

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    • anonApril2025@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Edible packaging informs of THC content in milligrams.

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      • stray@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m glad stoners are so eco-conscious that they’re not wasting plastic on packaging.

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve been a huge pothead for decades and I honestly haven’t noticed an increase in content while smoking regular weed. I think that’s the branded stuff that sends you out of orbit.

      But if it has changed, that just means I smoke less to get to the high I like by smoking the equivalent of one joint during the day. It’s so much less smoke for my lungs this way, I’m not complaining. Lol

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      • peteyestee@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        When I was a stoner I just reached a point where it didn’t effect me the same way.

        Like I would smoke more but it would just be the same level high …but I felt like I needed it any time I didn’t anything. Maybe I didn’t increase my bowl size much but the frequency increased.

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    • 8000gnat@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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      • Alteon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I biased against meth, but also afraid of it as well. Doesn’t mean I’m going to go out of my way to try it and assess whether it’s really as bad as they say. I also won’t try out any poison, random pills I find, or anything I have to inject.

        Fear is a healthy thing sometimes, mate.

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      • 3laws@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “I call people ‘afraid’ when they point out the current dangerous path of a drug that drives a 45 USD billion industry.”

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    • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I keep hearing that it’s supposed to be much stronger these days, but my experience is just the opposite.

      I was a heavy weed smoker in my young years, smoking standard generic pressbud, and it got me nicely stoned. I even had a couple of years where I was growing my own, so I’m very experienced with fresh homegrown weed, which was beautiful. Tasted great, with a very satisfying intense high. Then I quit smoking for a few decades.

      I recently started smoking again in my retirement, and was looking forward to trying this stronger weed I was hearing about. I’ve tried legal weed from various states, and none of it gets me nearly as stoned as the cheap pressbud of my youth.

      This is just anecdotal, but that’s been my experience.

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      • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I also have anecdotal stories of my friend’s life being ruined by weed addiction. We can all have some anecdotal evidence but more scientific evidence is coming out saying that there are higher levels of thc and if younger children smoke weed it will fuck them up. I do agree that using marijuana cautiously and medicinally can help but I can’t possibly recommend smoking for fun.

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    • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Really nice thing for us green dragon enthusiasts though.

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  • RedFrank24@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sensitivity and fellowship, yet my (former) friend who is a big stoner has gone all-in on conspiracy theories and is championing the Reform party in the UK because Labour are apparently race traitors. Guess weed can’t do all the lifting.

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    • Belgdore@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you are as smart and educated as Carl Sagan, I’m sure weed isn’t doing the heavy lifting.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah for people like Sagan, the “serenity” he’s referring to is probably more about quieting his mind.

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    • EstonianGuy@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Maybe weed isn’t relevant in that case, let’s not forget that in the US, weed was promoted by liberals and opposed by the MAGA crowd.

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    • peteyestee@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah that would is very naive and privileged.

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    • Retrograde@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Can’t win em all. Also, weed in the UK is rubbish /s

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  • BmeBenji@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Kinda blows my mind that capitalists so desperately want marijuana to be illegal. It’s basically the closest real-world analogue to Brave New World’s Soma.

    You want the populace to be complacent? You need to let em blaze it.

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    • sunflowercowboy@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is why I really fear it. Then again it helped me find god. Which i then realized structurally does create the complacent worker through pacifying rather than inciting any real change. So I am back to thinking it is a crutch.

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    • hark@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s already plenty out there to keep a population complacent. Also, the prison industrial complex and all that surrounds it is big business.

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    • Z_Poster365@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Weed leads to more open mindedness. Why bother using it as an opiate of the masses when you have actual opiates. Push those instead while throwing anyone who has touched weed into the private slave system for superprofits.

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  • Stovetop@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Boston City Hall is truly a legendarily gaudy building.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I was thinking what this magnificent brutalist building is

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  • cybervseas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Space Kermit was pretty far out there, man.

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  • smokingpistol@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Boston city hall

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  • Mangoholic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If there is one thing weed is really good at, it is making people okay with being lazy and with their current situation. LSD on the otherhand, can really make you rethink everything.

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    • Z_Poster365@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      what’s wrong with being content with your current situation? The productivity drive has been driven into you by capitalism and leads to mass discontentment and suffering. One must detach from endless striving to achieve true enlightenment and happiness, and weed can do that and chill people out and cure them of their “protestant work ethic” which a cultural disease

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        vice.com/…/smoking-weed-more-emphathetic-study/ Fwiw.

        My partner has an Rx for his myriad of autoimmune stuff. It really helps him when he isn’t feeling well.

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      • Mangoholic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Or its really bad for organizing and actually fighting capitalism because you are sedated and are okay with the exploitation since you can cope with weed after a long day of work. Revolution takes effort and trust me people on weed are not motivated to do shit and are not very social either. Weed is not the solution to fighting capitalism, it helps the capitalist by making people complaicent and actionless. The only real benefit would be a union strike, where you actually should do nothing. But to organize something like that takes effort and time and motivation.

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  • Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you need marijuana to “produce insight” then that is a problem for you. It is best that we keep dangerous drugs off the street through any means.

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    • Z_Poster365@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      dangerous? lmao

      you have the worldview of a victorian era spinster

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      • Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Slowing a response system clearly isn’t socially advantageous in any society where people are going to be operating any method of transportation like cars, bikes etc etc. I wouldn’t have a major opposition to it if people didn’t habitually attempt to leave the house while still high. Not to mention the consumption of it exposing others to chemicals through air pollution.

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    • Kuori@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ah yes the myriad dangers of eating too many cookies and falling asleep watching nature documentaries

      this scourge must end!

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      • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re laughing but I’ve been a passive victim of that danger!

        I used to live with someone who smoke cannabis on a regular basis. One day I went to bed, and my room-mate stayed on the garden, smoking his joint. When I woke up, the sandwich I prepared for my breakfast was… gone.

        Are you getting the full picture? An addict was stealing the sustenance of poor victim, due to his illegal psychoactive substance usage! Cannabis is danger! Don’t cannabis! Or if you do, prepare the munchies beforehand.

        [To be fair with him, on the same day he prepared me a way better sandwich as apology. And it isn’t like I went to the uni hungry, at morning I just whipped up some egg farofa and problem solved.]

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      • Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The actual damage that it does do through impaired driving causes actual damage through killing innocent people as well as contributes to laziness.

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    • whiskers165@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Bait used to be believable

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      • Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh, everything that doesn’t conform to my world view is just “bait”

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    • undeffeined@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you need coffee to have energy in the morning that is a problem for you.

      And yes, coffee is a drug and it can be dangerous as well.

      As Amaerica showed during the Prohibition and as we see today with opioids, humans will always want to alter their consciouness, not matter the cost. Legalizing drugs would be a net positive.

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      • Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Legalizing it encourages its consumption. There were high rates of people going to the ER with marijuana induced psychosis after legalizing in California (something where people probably would have been brought to the ER either way)

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    • easily3667@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stop your bullshit

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      • Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Stop being a junkie sympathizer

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    • anonApril2025@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes ANY means. We should nuke the entire planet before we let one dying grandma have a single puff.

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  • niktemadur@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Did Sagan say that in writing? I know he wrote a few things about his experiences with pot, but those were informal, anecdotal writings, and this sounds much more formal, almost like a public statement meant for publishing, or a speech.

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Here is a summary with a link to the PDF: bigthink.com/…/carl-sagan-on-smoking-marijuana/

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