Yes, so does lack of sleep. Put anyone in jail who pulls an all nighter
Comment on Sagan, you look high.
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 3 weeks agoThe actual damage that it does do through impaired driving causes actual damage through killing innocent people as well as contributes to laziness.
Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 3 weeks ago
That is much harder to regulate. If someone is driving while tired then they also should be facing other sanctions.
Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
if someone is driving while high then they should face consequences, but otherwise no crime has been committed. You can’t just do pre-crime to justify your views
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 3 weeks ago
How do you prevent that? Look at alcohol and how many people drive drunk. Marijuana can remain in your system for over 24 hours (even longer possibly) and many people will drive a car/a bike/go out in public. Not to mention that marijuana is often used in sexual assaults (adai.uw.edu/pubs/pdf/2017mj_sexualassault.pdf). I think that users deserve treatment and support rather than just off to prison but that shouldn’t make us act like the drug is some good benefit to society.
ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
So you’re also arguing alcohol should be banned?
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 3 weeks ago
I am not currently arguing that as that is not the subject being discussed on this post, but yes, I do support banning alcohol and think it absolutely should be a goal to eliminate all of these useless materials that lead only to death of innocent individuals, abuse, and crime.
ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
Well no, if you wanted to keep the discussion to marijuana then you should have stuck to actual criticisms of the drug instead of criticising potential consequences of misuse, which can apply to a lot of things. Driving unimpaired also kills innocent people, do you think driving should be banned?
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 3 weeks ago
Can we eliminate misuse? We have to look at it in the real word and the real word shows that misuse would occur like it does with alcohol. Unless misuse could be prevented then marijuana ought to be kept illegal.
undeffeined@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Who is advocating letting people drive high? Just like with alcohol, it should have a time and a place and it should be a crime to operate a vehicle under its influence.
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
If a substance is legal then people will drive on it. Look at it when it comes to alcohol. Drunk driving is illegal but thousands still do it constantly
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
They are driving under it even if it is illegal. The legality won’t change that.
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
Except it is effectively legal. When a group of chickens are sick a farmer will cull them. We need the same thing for these addicts. The issue is that they walk and spread the disease of addiction even after doing this
Kuori@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
distracted driving impairs your ability to operate a vehicle significantly, better ban
talking topassengers!or you know. just invest in public transit instead and ban cars.
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 3 weeks ago
Do you want a bunch of marijuana smokers on public transit with you? Exposing others to the dangerous smoke and causing such a noxious odor? Even if you ban cars they still are too impaired for things like bikes which cannot be easily done away with.
“Mass shooters at Rep. Gabby Giffords’s constituent meeting in Tucson, Ariz. (2011), a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. (2012), the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla. (2016), the First Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017), and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla. (2018), were reported to be marijuana users.” (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9462911/). They are apt to commit violent crimes beyond just what they do on the roads.
Kuori@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
i think this is the only time in my life i’ve ever encountered someone who isn’t an arch conservative try to make the claim that weed contributes to sexual assault (per your argument elsewhere in the thread) and mass murder. did your parents leave you in a locked room with nothing but reefer madness for entertainment as a kid or something?
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 3 weeks ago
No, I look at the actual evidence that marijuana causes violence in things like domestic abuse (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7525024/) as well as being tied to bipolar disorder and schizophrenia (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7084484), both of which cause violent actions. I think that we should support users in trying to get off it and focus on education rather than criminalization but it is dangerous none-the-less.
ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
Sib please get on a fucking bus once in your life. You are not allowed to smoke on them, marijuana or no.
Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 3 weeks ago
When I am on trains or subways there are often other passengers with smoke on their clothes, this is still terrible.