I’m shocked that I haven’t seen one protest yet. Is the media suppressing them? If there aren’t any, why?
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Submitted 1 week ago by Yazer@lemmy.ca to [deleted]
I’m shocked that I haven’t seen one protest yet. Is the media suppressing them? If there aren’t any, why?
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There is a qulitative change from protest to resistance needed.
Americans are too dumd down, pacified, apathetic and fatalistic.
Europe or other places would be on fire.
In the US taking a group walk with some signs and shouting is already too much to ask.
Chicago has had a few. In particular at the protest for science there was a dude in a trump in diapers blow up costume.
Did you forget BLM already?
Damn, I wish I lived under the rock you apparently do.
I was hoping those million women in knitted pink hats would turn out again and do the heavy lifting, but they were busy, I guess.
Like a towel drying overnight, they all forgot about the previous Trump administration by the time the next one got here.
There are protests, they are just way too small.
Trump hast at least 40% of the population behind him, and a good 20-30% don’t care. Still.
You can’t organize “mass protests” with 20-30% of the population.
I mean, you can, but they are literally a loud minority.
That’s just wrong
Put 20/30% of the population of any city or county out on the streets and it will make headlines
It’s technically a loud minority but a very loud and significant minority
The problem is that of those 20/30% only 10% will actually get out on the streets so you are left with around 2% of the general population. And that ain’t much
The problem is that of those 20/30% only 10% will actually get out on the streets so you are left with around 2% of the general population. And that ain’t much
So you do agree?
Getting mass protests organized is a tremendous effort. If you have 80-90% support for something, getting 30-40% on the street is a huge accomplishment. If only 30% support the idea in the first place, there is no chance.
The “mass protest” has to be at a scale, where it’s basically a general strike where society shuts down because people are protesting.
That doesn’t mean stop trying, but also
but a very loud and significant minority
This is meaningless in a country that chooses to ignore public voices. Authoritarian regimes can stay stable with 10-15% support of the population, ignoring protests and complaints.
Me too
And i live here
Find a protest, bang your drum.
The amount of cope in this thread is insanely depressing.
I am convinced people have to die for it to be big enough in the US. I’m not trying to be difficult or obtuse. I think with the state of things, it’s the only thing that is going to unify us enough to take to the streets and revolt together.
People already are / have been dying. Abortion care deaths / trans and general population - suicide rate upticks / ICE detention center deaths (52 people last Trump term) with people being grabbed on valid visas now / 1 death already of a Ukrainian last month in a detention center - custody (44 year old) Maksym Chernyak was a stroke / seizure but when you understand the conditions 24/7 light - terrible food and sleep conditions makes sense.
Medicaid cuts that made it through will lead to deaths. Due to gaps in care.
Abortion stances will only get worse from here in states and at the federal level for access to medical care on still borns, and general birthing process will be worse.
NOAA cuts will lead to deaths due to alert notification systems of major storms and tornados. (March has already been particularly deadly)
ICE interactions and warrant laws being modified for them will lead to more deaths if they ever get reported.
Food bank funding and other supports have been cut so we will likely see an increase in malnourishment diseases and deaths
VA benefits and mental health support services are actively being cut. So expect more suicide and homelessness from our veterans.
Social security cuts will kill seniors - access to care / meals / warmth - aids. These will be seen as increases in fall related, medication mistakes, transfer issues, hospital stay illness upticks, complex wound healing (wounds in the elderly require nutrition to heal if poor they won’t heal and tunnel so sepsis deaths) and other related deaths.
All of these things won’t be clear TRUMP DID IT. But as those statlines tick up. And the average life expectancy and health outcomes of our citizens get worse by the year. It will be because of these cuts.
As much as I respect your knowledge and analysis it isn’t simple enough. I should have said people need to be dying from the same thing. Where the root cause is the same, it can be dismissed. I thought COVID had a chance because it was nasty and killed a lot. But nope. Didn’t keep Trump out.
Because Americans are by and large complete cowards.
Your mom’s a coward!
Same reasons people didnt act in germany all those years ago. First apathy and that will transition into fear of reprisal.
We had an election and Trump won fair and square. All you can do is regroup and get prepared for the next election.
Half of the Americans are in favor of this clown, and the other half either are too drained from the whole thing, can’t afford to miss work, or just don’t know how to protest.
Because over half the people voted for him and are convinced of everything he says and does. My f’ing BIL thinks Trump can’t do anything wrong. Just go question him on other social media, especially a state subreddit, and people will say things like “so you are in favor or waste and fraud!?” like it is case closed.
Because over half the people voted for him
No they didn’t. Only like 60% of eligible voters actually voted in this past election. Which means only about 30% of eligible voters voted for Trump. About 80% of the country’s population are eligible voters, and since only 30% voted for Trump, 80% x 30% = 24% of the population voted for him. Roughly a quarter of people voted for him, not half.
And for anyone who’s wondering, “why did only 60% of eligible voters vote?” The answer is mostly voter suppression in various forms.
Throw around all the numbers you want. The fact remains: the majority of voters voted for trump. I don’t like it either, but this is what America is.
Politicians should be responsible for the people to vote.
An election with 63% of the voters should not allow a full mandate. Of course politicians will never agree to that on either sides, but it’s how it should be imo.
Queue the Democrats that have done the same thing for their own party members.
What would “a protest” accomplish? What have they accomplished in my lifetime?
globalcitizen.org/…/peace-protests-dallas-respons…
Some may not have been in your lifetime but peaceful protests do get results. Outside of revolution all our civil rights around the world have been won through protest.
Downvotes, but no answers.
What good has ever come from people standing in a street waving a cardboard sign?
I don’t call them protests. I call them “Opportunity to arrest figure heads of whatever movement in order to eliminate momentum and silently kill the cause since no North American protest seems like anything more than cows being led to a slaughter house by riot cops”
Because, in reality, peaceful protests don’t work. We’ve been taught that they do, but they don’t.
The most successful protest going on right now is against Tesla. A bit of anonymous property destruction and a boycott, crashing the stock price, those things actually work. Getting together and holding signs doesn’t actually do anything, especially in some place like California.
Good news, Peaceful protests are actually twice as likely to bring about change. Better news, peaceful protests with only 3.5% of the population actively participating have never failed to bring about change. Even better news, we have strong leadership in Bernie Sanders and AOC leading this movement, 34,000 people showed up to a recent rally in Denver.
They work. As long as people make sure that the top knows that the alternative are guillotines
I don’t have an answer but I have wondered the same. Serbia, Georgia and Türkiye have currently some very large pro-democracy demonstrations, but the USA hasn’t. What there is seems to be pretty small scale.
Maybe pro-democrat Americans don’t feel like their actions matter? Perhaps the opposition just isn’t that popular? Maybe the USA just didn’t have all that strong traditions of civil action to to begin with. At least when compared to countries lile Georgia or Serbia.
Quite simply, most americans aren’t that mad at Trump. He’s poking at foreign nations, while the foreign media gets more n more shrill and hysterical. You’re in Canada, dude, he’s trying to piss you off right now.
I personally believe he’s doing so to try and get better USMCA trade agreements, but I believe it’s just going to backfire, which could also just as well be the goal.
I don’t think he cares if it backfires. Canada has about as much raw power as about 3 midwestern states, with the military and populace to match. It was capable of projecting world power in a world a fuck sight less populated than today, the worlds second largest country but the population of some European country you can drive across in 4 hours.
Protest for what? Not sure if you are referring to something in particular, or just in general.
The majority of people were tired of the democrats, and like what the republicans are doing. Under Biden for the past 4 years, I saw way more people who were democrat become republican, than I saw republicans become democrat.
I’ve seen one protest where I live, and there were maybe 30 people there.
They’re caging and chaining up perfectly innocent people. When do they start calling regular citizens terrorists and start arresting us in mass?
I don’t live in the usa. But I’ve protested for a lot less…
A lot of people said they weren’t going to protest this time. People voted for the guy 3 times. A lot of people said, “fuck it! If this is what you really want, let’s learn this shit the hard way.” Right after the election and right after inauguration I saw this sentiment all over. In practice, a lot of people have taken to hoarding cash and have adopted a seige mentality. There is no help coming this time.
It sucks that protest is the only lever we have
There’s lot of ways to protest. Already refused to help my Trump voting family members with $. They wanted this lesson. I’m gonna make damn sure they learn it.
Because it turns out they were just little afraid bitches the whole time. Russians in waiting. Little goblins waiting for an overlord.
tunetardis@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
They had that protest in every state did they not? But when I couldn’t find much on it in the Canadian media, I went searching CNN and other American sites and found very little also, which was surprising to me. Here on lemmy, there were all sorts photos being posted from various cities, and it looked like a pretty big deal?
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 week ago
There have been multiple protests like that one. And many more at Tesla dealerships, national parks, etc as well.