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• AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fucking hell, this again.

  Listen, you people need to realize a lot of people are here on Lemmy because Reddit screwed them over, not because Lemmy is open source or less of a privacy issue or whatever your reasons for using it are.

  So you hate Discord. That’s fine, you’re allowed to! But pitching a fit because everyone else doesn’t hate it isn’t gonna convince anyone to stop using it.

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  • shertson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t hate Discord, but I do hate that they seem to require my phone number. I tried joining Discord over a year ago. Upon first log in they claimed that there was suspicious activity that required me to verify the account by giving them my phone number. This was from a computer, I never even visited the site on my phone let alone use the mobile app. I gave up and forgot about until a few months ago and decided to try again. They still wanted my phone number, email wasn’t good enough. I contacted their support email and was told that there was no other option but to provide a phone number and that they couldn’t override it. So I told them to delete my account and that I would never use their service. It took two weeks for them to do it.

    There are very few situations in which an app needs my phone number in my eyes. And a chat application is not one of them. Just like I refused to use the official Reddit app because it wanted access to my contacts and location. I am not a super privacy nut, but the whole hog approach of gathering my info is not acceptable. I would rather pay for the service. I would have paid for Reddit if they had gone that route rather than dropping 3rd Party apps. Instead I’m on Lemmy.

    So fucking hell yes, this again.

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    • unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Everyone wants your phone number now because it’s a decent approach to combating spammers. Note that I said decent, not perfect. It’s relatively easy for a company to determine if a phone number is owned by a specific person vs. a voip company that enables spammers to use hundreds of new numbers, so now we’re asking everyone for theirs. SMS is also used for the lowest form of multi factor authentication, so they get to claim that it’s a security decision, not one for marketing, etc and because of network effects, we all have to choose to either go along or miss out.

      Agree that it’s super annoying and certainly not privacy-centric, but Discord is owned by Microsoft, what can we expect? Innovation?

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    • vonbaronhans@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Must be server specific. I’ve used Discord for years and never had to add a phone number.

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    • Tenesto@citizensgaming.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Your requirement to use software is based around whether or not it requires your phone number for verification?

      Man some people draw really weird lines.

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    • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is shitty, but not common.

      Certain channels will require a phone verified account, but most won’t.

      Did you ever try on a phone or a different computer in a different location? With a different email?

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  • antik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Especially since this thread is about removing the pinned post. And a lot of the people downvoting are from other instances, they don’t even see it pinned it’s just ‘discord bad’. Which is literally the top comment in this thread.

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    • Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If I may, we are all probably alt juggling at the moment, the fact that you see people interacting with account from other instances does not mean the people don’t have an account on LW

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  • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah I’m here because I like the alternative to Reddit’s bullshit.

    I couldn’t care less about Foss. I mean it’s cool, but it’s not why I’m here.

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    • Count0@lemmy.villa-straylight.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Reddits bullshit is the end case for ANY product or service that is not FOSS.

      pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

      You should care, or else you will go through reddit all over again and again.

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    • cloud@lazysoci.al ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sounds like you are not too smart

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  • Magrath@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think at the very least we could have an open source alternative along with the discord. No reason to completely shutdown the discord.

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    • icedterminal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      One already exists

      revolt.chat

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    • refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      matrix.org

      I’ve been using it for a very long time now. (Mostly) works really well.

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  • cloud@lazysoci.al ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Reddit screw you over because it’s closed source and centralized. You need to realize that discord it’s just the same if not worst.

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• kurikai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Discord is horrible

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• Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Even Discord issues aside, it just seems strange to have a proprietary software used for a platform as open source as Lemmy.

  It would be as strange as having a Twitter account for the instance.

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  • GONADS125@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Especially since there is already a lemmy.world announcement community…

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    • antik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Which is our main platform for announcements and the discord server is just to complement LW not to replace any of it.

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  • CoderKat@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    IMO that’s being too fanatic. I love FOSS, but you don’t have to use FOSS for absolutely everything. Making a FOSS product does not mean you need to use FOSS for everything. And sometimes the closed source options are simply the best. Eg, GitHub and Discord are widely considered the best options in their field.

    Also, at least before Twitter became such a shitty alt-right shit hole, many FOSS products did have twitter accounts! That’s just part of promoting your product and providing an alternative place to contact and discuss. Eg, when Reddit went down, I’d usually check their twitter to get updates on it.

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    • Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Eg, GitHub and Discord are widely considered the best options in their field.

      Librewolf moved to Codeberg a few weeks ago, so I guess there are still alternatives.

      As said elsewhere, Mozilla uses Matrix.

      Following that logic, why do we bother using Lemmy in the first place? We could just go back to Reddit, using revanced apps with personal API keys, and call it a day.

      Also, at least before Twitter became such a shitty alt-right shit hole, many FOSS products did have twitter accounts!

      They did, but then Twitter went to shit. Reddit was fine, until it went to shit. If the Piped project were to use a subreddit instead of !piped@feddit.rocks , wouldn’t that be a missed opportunity too? FOSS project should support each other, otherwise it questions their existence in the first place. Why would other organisations and companies bother with the FOSS alternatives if FOSS projects themselves don’t?

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    • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      GitHub and Discord are widely considered the best options in their field.

      Git, sure, but suggesting Discord is the best depends on how you’re judging that criteria. Best for who? Admins or users?

      Moreover, if we’re going to start getting into the nitty gritty about what the “best” options are in any field, then FOSS dies in most cases. Volunteers simply cannot compete with a bunch of paid developers, but they will do their best.

      Plex, for example, blows Jellyfin out of the water in terms of polish and simplicity. If you’re judging best on how easy it is, and how likely it is the average person’s going to run into issues, Plex beats its FOSS competition by a mile. But that’s not the whole story, is it? That doesn’t take the insertification factor into account, or the fact that forces you to pay for something that your computer is effectively doing on its own.

      But the other thing to remember is that what truly kills FOSS is people just simply not supporting it. The more you use these established, centralized, biggest names, the further you entrench them, and the harder it becomes for any serious alternative to justify its existence.

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  • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s because Discord provides a functionality Lemmy does not yet offer. Forums having a connected chatroom is not a new thing at all, and that was true with subreddits and discords. Easy, instant communication for the community, particularly it’s management, is useful. Back when I moderated forums, the mod teams had a private mod forum, but also hung out in thw IRC chat.

    The problem isn’t the existence of a chatroom, it’s that they used Discord. But I don’t believe there’s a fediverse alternative for chat functionality like that, at least not yet.

    Discord is also a useful reference point for new users who may need guidanton how to use lemmy, but already know how to use discord. Call it onboarding if you like.

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    • rckclmbr@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why not just use IRC?

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    • Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I get the need to have a chat, we also setup one for the moderators of one of my community

      Matrix is a pretty good alternative to Discord, with moderation possible via github.com/Gnuxie/Draupnir.

      It’s not a perfect one to one match, but Lemmy is not one for Reddit either, still we are all here.

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  • TheKarion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Its like putting fish oil on your steak

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• AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What people don’t get is that self-hosting a Discord-like is not a solution. The idea is to have a fallback in case the server goes down, and Discord serves that role well.

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  • NathanielThomas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A fallback for what? Discord is a chat program that usually devolves into garbage memes and off-topic nonsense instantly.

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    • Jaded@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s so there admins can communicate when the server is down. Would you rather they use Twitter?

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    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Discord is a chat program that usually devolves into garbage memes and off-topic nonsense instantly.

      This… Is somehow different from Lemmy other than the chat vs forum aspect?

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  • antik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Snoo about to collect downvotes like pokemons

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    • AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bring it on!

      Image

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    • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      An admin complaining about downvotes doesn’t inspire confidence in the running of the instance.

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  • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Uh He never said it has to be self-hosted though, so this already sounds like a strawman argument. Only one who has mentioned self hosting in this thread is you.

    People want something that is secure and respects privacy, they could simply use the Matrix channel, or create their own Matrix space specific to lemmy.world , both of these would be better options for the users than to try and get them to use Discord which is a proprietary corporate service that is not only prone to security problems but also has some serious privacy concerns due to being corporate owned.

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• igorlogius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Mozilla uses matrix … so that might be a good hint

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• Thedogspaw@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why are we telling people to go somewhere else that makes no sense

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not saying I agree here, because I don’t, but I think the idea is that lemmy.world is down so much that they wanted a stable platform for meta stuff.

    I might be more sympathetic to that idea if they made announcements on the Discord and on Lemmy at as close to the same time as possible, but they don’t.

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    • Thedogspaw@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They should make announcements on another instance of lemmy then thats the whole point if one instance is down you can use a different one

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  • UnaSolaEstrellaLibre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s not a replacement for lemmy.world , but rather a backup site for announcements when .world goes down.

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    • kaito@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Doesn’t have to be done specifically over Discord, does it

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• hexagonwin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can’t we just have an IRC room on somewhere like Libera, please?

  Or if we really need images and stuff, a Matrix room would be sufficient. Or an XMPP room…

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  • ninchuka@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If they hosted their own XMPP server and that got taken down by the DDOS attacks the room/MUC would be down as well, not ideal, unlike matrix

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• Stoneykins@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • antik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We use it for chat and vc. Announcements go here.

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    • CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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    • Stoneykins@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• inspxtr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I wonder whether matrix and/or matrix bridge has been mentioned before. Maybe discord + matrix bridge is a good enough compromise for reachability.

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  • CorrodedCranium@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    To get the privacy benefits wouldn’t you need to forego bridges?

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    • inspxtr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have never hosted a bridge before so I may get things wrong. Please correct me where I do.

      I assume this channel may be public, so any privacy concern needs to take that into account.

      In terms of implementation, I was thinking that there would be 1 channel hosted on discord and 1 room on matrix being bridged together.

      The benefit is that users of matrix and users of discord can participate in the same conversation without having to create an account on the other service. That way, matrix users don’t have to create a discord account or download discord app, which would be a good outcome in terms of privacy.

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• Spacellary@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Discord is a horrible company, it should be avoided at all costs, why is it being advertised over Matrix?

  In my opinion users should be made aware of those channels instead.

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• antik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why care so much. Nobody forces you to do anything, don’t like it don’t use it and you can still enjoy Lemmy World. The entitlement is a bit much honestly.

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  • tja@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But this means that the community chat will be in discord. If I want to chat with other members in this community, I need to join discord.

    So it would be better if another option would be advertised

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    • clueless_stoner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But normally you didn’t have a direct community chat either. Discord is easily accessible, usable and scalable for that use at the moment, so whoever wants it can use it. In the meantime, there’s absolutely no force keeping you from suggesting better options.

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    • Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sadly to manage Matrix is more difficult and harder to moderate ( there is no mod bot and developing is a mess )

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you’re so upset about out-of-instance interaction, just defederate altogether from all other instances. Turn into Truth Social. Or close the server. Jesus, just take criticism with grace.

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    • AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      criticism

      Which has no merit at all to begin with, since out-of-instance users do not see the pinned posts of Lemmy.world. He’s right to call out most of you for simply trolling.

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    • antik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This thread is about unpinning a local thread. Something that does not affect people from another instance at all.

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  • clueless_stoner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have to agree.

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    • antik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Up next only Linux users allowed on Lemmy

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  • Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yup! Its not a forced thing. Where you get “special” news or so. Its just a off site platform where LW can tell whats wrong if the site goes offline.

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    • Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Its just a off site platform where LW can tell whats wrong if the site goes offline.

      Hello,

      Thank you for your work!

      For that specific use case, would it be possible to set-up a Mastodon account posting heads-up about incidents?

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• infyrin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  On one hand, I get it because Lemmy has been constantly bombarded with DDoS attacks to where, one moment you’re viewing something, next click and it’s back to that familiar screen of checking the browser, you and host. So it is annoying and I get why admins would want to announce and bring things elsewhere.

  HOWEVER

  What would’ve made it more fitting, is if they picked another federated platform, like Mastodon, to announce things.

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• CantSt0pPoppin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sure, Lemmy does not offer end-to-end encryption by default, which means that your messages could be intercepted by someone who is able to access your ISP’s network or the Lemmy server. A red flag for me is the fact that Lemmy stores some user data on their servers, such as your IP address and email address. This data could be used as breadcrumbs.

  Lemmy may not sell user data to third parties, but what about the servers? There have been some security vulnerabilities found in Lemmy’s code. These exploits could result in servers being hijacked or user accounts compromised.

  So, what does all this mean? It means that it is your personal responsibility to take steps to protect your privacy and security when using Lemmy. This includes using the encryption feature, being aware of the risks associated with using Lemmy, and carefully evaluating the privacy policies of any platform before you use it.

  I know it’s a lot to keep track of, but it’s important. Your privacy is your business, and it’s up to you to protect it. So take these things seriously, and don’t let anyone take your privacy away from you.

  About the concerns with Discord:

  Creating a post saying, ‘everyone else does it’ and locking it is funky in my book. I, like you, I am all about transparency and understanding. I fully understand your anxiety, and it is a bit warranted. I am not trying to sound like an alarmist.

  On the subject of Discord, it is amazing and disturbing how much data is curated and harvested. Their business model is quite mysterious. No one really knows what their real motives are. Discord shrouds itself and does not provide clear and concise privacy audits or statements on the subject.

  You are concerned about your privacy, and rightfully so. Lemmy is designed for privacy from the ground up when used properly and only with encryption functions enabled. Discord, on the other hand, unfortunately has a stranglehold on the instant messaging backbone.

  CVE-2021-29465: This vulnerability allowed attackers to overwrite any file on the system with the command results. This could have been used to steal user data, install malware, or take control of Discord servers.

  CVE-2021-29466: This vulnerability allowed attackers to read local files from the server. This could have been used to steal user data, such as passwords or chat logs.

  CVE-2021-34491: This vulnerability allowed attackers to bypass Discord’s rate limit, which could have been used to send spam or DDoS attacks.

  CVE-2022-22936: This vulnerability allowed attackers to take control of Discord servers by exploiting a flaw in the Discord Token Generator.

  These are just a few examples, but I would be lying if I said they were not patched. That being said there is no telling how many zero-day security risks are out there at this time, so it is important to stay vigilant and ask the hard questions to ensure that your privacy is protected.

  Lastly, you could totally start a community here on .world for Discord alternatives. It’s a easy breezy lemon squeezy way to find people who are also into privacy and security.

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• Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have hated discord so much and for so long. It collects all my data, controls and censors servers, and its run by shitty people who keep their shareholders close by.

  I use Matrix and it has the potential to be a lot of fun (use a frontend that isn’t Element and it gets way better) but it has limited instances. Yeah, I’d be extremely grateful if Lemmy communities had Matrix Rooms as opposed to Discord Servers.

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• TheKarion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s the truth folks

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• Vlyn@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Think what you want about Discord, but it has a different purpose than Lemmy or Matrix. It’s mainly a real-time chat application (with voice on top if you want). Nobody chatting on Discord will create a Lemmy post instead, two totally different forms of communication. That’s like complaining back in the day why the forum you use has an IRC room pinned.

  Their business model will leave you completely dumbfounded as to how they exist.

  Does it? Look up Discord Nitro, they charge a lot of money for basic functionality (like being able to share your screen above 720p, use custom emojis on other servers, promote your own server, …). They rake in plenty of money, no need to sell your data for that (which they at least say don’t do based on the terms and conditions).

  Currently there is no good alternative to Discord for actual chatting. Lemmy doesn’t offer a chat function (Though the chat on Reddit was crap too). Mastodon is not a chat, it’s a Twitter alternative. And IRC has always been crap where 9 out of 10 people just idle and you don’t have a chat history.

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  • Anonymousllama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Matrix itself works fantastically for chat, we use it to coordinate conversations for kbin. It’s like a non shit version of discord (minus the video / audio support I guess)

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  • Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Currently there is no good alternative to Discord for actual chatting.

    Matrix?

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      Moderation?

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  • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Show me the numbers, against non paying users, infrastructure, and overhead. I don’t see this as valid. I also don’t agree with your tale on collecting and sharing data. What I read a couple of years ago was extremely vague and verbose. It also had the fuck you we can change this at any time without telling you clause. AKA, the points don’t matter so lube your butt plug because this is proprietary and you should know better clause. They are another company built on exploitation with no transparency or documentation. “Trust me” is garbage. Show me exactly what you are doing with full transparency, or you are a criminal. This is real world 21st century common sense. Discord is garbage.

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    • Vlyn@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They have 203 million dollars of revenue in a year from Nitro alone (the small subscription they sell): www.usesignhouse.com/blog/discord-stats

      Then they have server boosts, which is another big pot of money on top.

      And revenue share with content creators.

      And Discord merch.

      Tons of users too, evaluation is based on their platform + potential user base, not the actual money they pull in.

      www.datasourse.com/how-discord-makes-money/

      Maybe inform yourself first.

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    where 9 out of 10 people just idle and you don’t have a chat history

    You just described Discord, lol.

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• ZeroXHunter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah, just use matirx!

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• BlazingFlames6073@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I just migrated to a different instance and now see this lol. I agree though that it is odd

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• qevlarr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Don’t care, tbh. I would prefer if people would be less uptight on these things. Let people have Lemmy and Discord, if they want. They’ll get there, if we stop being dicks to people who are only halfway there.

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• kttnpunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s a unabashed admission from the admin that this site isn’t taken seriously, nor the FOSS mindset that built the infrastructure + most of the userbase. Real disappointing for sure, but especially considering the other decisions that have been made recently on this platform -it’s gonna be a ghost town soon.

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  • Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    it’s gonna be a ghost town soon.

    Curious to see how it will evolve. I guess more and more people disagreeing with this decision might leave, we’ll see how it goes.

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• obinice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You sound very angry at a piece of software. You don’t have to use it, and you can block the community/user that posted the thing you don’t like.

  Take a breath and don’t worry about it, for real. Not everything in life is for you, and you won’t like everything you see, and that’s fine. It doesn’t make your feelings invalid, but you can’t let it get to you < 3

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  • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is an admin post. A mod blocking admin is unsustainable misalignment

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• Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah, I was wondering what that was doing up still.

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• sbr32@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As a tech-ignorant person who uses Discord with multiple gaming groups, what is so bad about it?

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  • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How they monetize is unknown, but they are big and well funded.

    I keep my workstation behind a whitelist firewall. It is a pain, but this means I have a device that filters all network traffic and only lets websites I have added to the list to transmit and receive messages. So like, if I download something sketchy or accidentally write some buggy code, it won’t have internet access to unapproved locations.

    All legitimate commercial websites have their human readable web address. So on my whitelist, I can add Lemmy.world:443 and it will allow connections to Lemmy over port 443 aka https.

    Discord doesn’t do anything conventional like this. If you try to connect to discord with a whitelist firewall, and look at the blocked connection logs, all you will see are random raw IP addresses. This alone is super weird. Then you will find these addresses are trying to connect to odd ports with no documentation about what they are used for or the protocol. Discord does not provide any details whatsoever that I could find.

    Okay so a few super weird connections on super sketchy ports, with no idea what they are doing, and no documentation. Hmmm. But it gets worse. I can jot down some notes for a couple of random raw IP addresses. At this point I really don’t like it, but might just grumble past it like just before reddit died. But no, trying to connect to discord after punching these holes, lead to two more random raw IP addresses and different ports, and after that it happened again. Now I’m at 6 random undocumented holes in a firewall, and it still doesn’t work and is trying for more. Fuck that bullshit. Reading their terms agreement is basically legalese for you have no rights to anything. It is totally insane that people just run this shit and don’t take 5 minutes to ask where is the money exchanging hands to fund this. Who knows, maybe it is legitimate. I fully expect to hear about it in the news one day, and I expect this one to be a giant nuclear bombshell when it happens. I keep popcorn reserves on standby.

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  • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nothing. But it’s not free and someone owns the code so they are the devil.

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  • cloud@lazysoci.al ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord

    stallman.org/discord.html

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• morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can’t you just hide the post and move on?

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  • Rognaut@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I actually did that. Every single time I opened the app. It just came back.

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• regalia@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Reddit or Twitter would even be more preferable then Discord.

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