This is completely counter productive to growing Lemmy. I absolutely despise discord. Look at the network traffic it generates and tell me wtf they are doing. They won’t tell you. Their business model will leave you completely dumbfounded as to how they exist. Everything shared on the platform is lost in a black hole unavailable to the outside world and everything shared is a privacy nightmare. Posting this, pinning it here, and locking it is one of the biggest trolls possible. It pisses me off every time I log in. “Everyone else does it” is the excuse of idiots. Discord makes absolutely no sense to anyone that actually cares to look into it, read the user agreement, and ask sane questions about what they are doing.
Discord is horrible
AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Fucking hell, this again.
Listen, you people need to realize a lot of people are here on Lemmy because Reddit screwed them over, not because Lemmy is open source or less of a privacy issue or whatever your reasons for using it are.
So you hate Discord. That’s fine, you’re allowed to! But pitching a fit because everyone else doesn’t hate it isn’t gonna convince anyone to stop using it.
shertson@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I don’t hate Discord, but I do hate that they seem to require my phone number. I tried joining Discord over a year ago. Upon first log in they claimed that there was suspicious activity that required me to verify the account by giving them my phone number. This was from a computer, I never even visited the site on my phone let alone use the mobile app. I gave up and forgot about until a few months ago and decided to try again. They still wanted my phone number, email wasn’t good enough. I contacted their support email and was told that there was no other option but to provide a phone number and that they couldn’t override it. So I told them to delete my account and that I would never use their service. It took two weeks for them to do it.
There are very few situations in which an app needs my phone number in my eyes. And a chat application is not one of them. Just like I refused to use the official Reddit app because it wanted access to my contacts and location. I am not a super privacy nut, but the whole hog approach of gathering my info is not acceptable. I would rather pay for the service. I would have paid for Reddit if they had gone that route rather than dropping 3rd Party apps. Instead I’m on Lemmy.
So fucking hell yes, this again.
unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Everyone wants your phone number now because it’s a decent approach to combating spammers. Note that I said decent, not perfect. It’s relatively easy for a company to determine if a phone number is owned by a specific person vs. a voip company that enables spammers to use hundreds of new numbers, so now we’re asking everyone for theirs. SMS is also used for the lowest form of multi factor authentication, so they get to claim that it’s a security decision, not one for marketing, etc and because of network effects, we all have to choose to either go along or miss out.
Agree that it’s super annoying and certainly not privacy-centric, but Discord is owned by Microsoft, what can we expect? Innovation?
vonbaronhans@midwest.social 10 months ago
Must be server specific. I’ve used Discord for years and never had to add a phone number.
Tenesto@citizensgaming.com 10 months ago
Your requirement to use software is based around whether or not it requires your phone number for verification?
Man some people draw really weird lines.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This is shitty, but not common.
Certain channels will require a phone verified account, but most won’t.
Did you ever try on a phone or a different computer in a different location? With a different email?
antik@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Especially since this thread is about removing the pinned post. And a lot of the people downvoting are from other instances, they don’t even see it pinned it’s just ‘discord bad’. Which is literally the top comment in this thread.
Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
If I may, we are all probably alt juggling at the moment, the fact that you see people interacting with account from other instances does not mean the people don’t have an account on LW
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Yeah I’m here because I like the alternative to Reddit’s bullshit.
I couldn’t care less about Foss. I mean it’s cool, but it’s not why I’m here.
Count0@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 10 months ago
Reddits bullshit is the end case for ANY product or service that is not FOSS.
pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys
You should care, or else you will go through reddit all over again and again.
cloud@lazysoci.al 10 months ago
Sounds like you are not too smart
Magrath@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I think at the very least we could have an open source alternative along with the discord. No reason to completely shutdown the discord.
icedterminal@lemmy.world 10 months ago
One already exists
revolt.chat
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
matrix.org
I’ve been using it for a very long time now. (Mostly) works really well.
cloud@lazysoci.al 10 months ago
Reddit screw you over because it’s closed source and centralized. You need to realize that discord it’s just the same if not worst.