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Is anyone planning on doing anything about trump creating a concentration camp at guantanamo bay?
Submitted 4 months ago by Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
I dunno what I can do besides get out of the US or sewer slide.
Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
You need to find, pressure, back up, help and signalboost elected politicians who are willing to challenge that. Or civilians going the route of lawsuits. Or Luigy some motherfucker or two, but that’s more of a desperate option.
LengAwaits@lemmy.world 4 months ago
"To understand revolutionary suicide it is first necessary to have an idea of reactionary suicide, for the two are very different. Reactionary suicide: the reaction of a man who takes his own life in response to social conditions that overwhelm him and condemn him to helplessness.”
“I do not think that life will change for the better without an assault on the Establishment, which goes on exploiting the wretched of the earth. This belief lies at the heart of the concept of revolutionary suicide. Thus it is better to oppose the forces that would drive me to self-murder than to endure them. Although I risk the likelihood of death, there is at least the possibility, if not the probability, of changing intolerable conditions.”
“But before we die, how shall we live? I say with hope and dignity; and if premature death is the result, that death has a meaning reactionary suicide can never have. It is the price of self-respect.”
– Dr. Huey P. Newton
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I dunno, what’s your plan?
abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Go to the Winchester, grab a nice cold pint and wait for this all to blow over.
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 4 months ago
Okay. But dogs CAN look up!
DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I’ll meet ya there in a bit.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Write lots of scathing comments online
Loce@lemmy.world 4 months ago
No, but you’ll have a chance (maybe?) in 4 years to do something about it.
eronth@lemmy.world 4 months ago
2 years to maybe do something, 4 years maybe to maybe do something better.
pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Obama didn’t, even with a supermajority in the Senate. This is the problem with me liberalism taking over the D party. Trump certainly isn’t going to.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Obama didn’t open a concentration camp
pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 months ago
He allowed extra-judicial torture practices there against UNHR and any humanitarian objections. He didn’t do what Trump is going to, but he allowed it to normalize and continue despite the power to stop it, and makes it less of a leap for a right wing freak to make something like this happen. It’s not a “thanks Obama”, but people down voting holding Obama to account for keeping it open want Dems to be blameless despite complicity in the neoliberal bullshit dating back to Clinton as the party swung for corporate interests and abandoned their humanity.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Where do i sign up for the flash mob?
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Bay of Pigs 2: America invades America on location in Cuba.
bountygiver@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
No one is doing anything, because we all decided when facists win legally, we must play by their rules of must not do anything about it.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 months ago
No one is doing anything
Plenty of not-terminally-online people are organizing to resist mass arrests and deportations. Reach out to your local DSA. My Houston chapter’s been great about pulling together legal resources, just for starters.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
We could all decide otherwise. That mean ignoring nay sayers and aligning yourself with only people who share your values.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Same they they did for the other concentration camp which is currently being exterminated.
Saltycracker@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If they stayed from bush to now. Throughout the Obama years and Biden years, first trump. They will probably stay for the next 20 presidents
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Who are you people making this a left v right thing??? How is trump opening a concentration camps housing tens of thousands of people remotely similar to legacy prisons there housing what, 36 people?
cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 months ago
At this point, beyond enduring, I’m afraid there is no “non violent” options. And to be clear, I don’t think non-violent options are going to improve anything, just that there’s not much else to do.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Agreed that there is no non-violent way to stop this admin from making concentration camps in Guantanamo, but there are plenty of things you can do to keep people from ending up in those camps without using violence.
Most undocumented people get snatched up outside of their homes. Keeping an eye out for ICE, and breaking their cover is a huge help (Just walk up to them and say ‘Hi’, ask what they are doing and in general occupy their time with innocuous conversation), you can also provide food and financial assistance to your affected neighbors, as they may be unable to work without getting snatched. Make an emergency plan with them for who to contact, and if they have an immigration lawyer in the case that they get grabbed. If anyone with a badge actually asks about them, you don’t know shit, you’ve never seen shit.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Gitmo has been a concentration camp since the day it was founded.
Did obomber or genocide joe do anything about it?
Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I am not a big fan of Obama, but he definitely tried to close it down and would have if it was not for the conservatives at the time.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Wow, such nuance. You must sleep like a baby know everything is Obama and joes fault.
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Sure did yeah, Republicans blocked closing it.
Isn’t it fun to find out that you’re on the wrong side of history every single time without fail?
WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Some useful references on the subject:
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think moderators on Lemmy and Reddit are working hard to remove posts and content
MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Lemmy mods are at ridk for legal consequences so I would cut them more slack.
peregrin5@lemm.ee 4 months ago
What is a platform people can actually use to organize less then legal operations?
Atlas_@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yes, arson.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 4 months ago
Care to share what your plan is, OP?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
The same thing we did about Manzanar.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You can, if you are crafty, get a plane to Cuba for less than 300 bucks, and then organize a resistance movement in there against gitmo
Should be fairly easy
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Execute operation reverse elian gonzalez
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
no, i’m not the government.
Mcdolan@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This might be dumb, but what if everyone right now changed our income tax status to where they aren’t deducting taxes from our paycheck with the threat of not paying taxes?
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I have no problem with paying taxes to the government. We need to hit the larger economy, not the support system keep millions afloat.
Mcdolan@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That support system is going away anyways. Money is the only language late stage capitalism speaks.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 months ago
Now y’all care about gitmo?
Fuck off with your performative bullshit.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Nothing is more performative then your dumb ass using the weakest argument imaginable to define trump opening a concentration camp.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Conservatives will say anything. To be clear, I mean you.
rational_lib@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I already did, it didn’t work.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Many of us did. I hope we find each other on the other side.
Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
I’m sure all we need is enough class consciousness and gumption so our direct action can stop the fascist regime from implementing imperialism.